Tuesday Finding The Joy Open Comments

In an effort to elevate the discourse here, we have the story of a dying priest. He is a prime exemplar of “paying forward”, of how our lifetimes and how we approach the events therein define us.

After the doctor told him tumors filled his abdomen, Hemann took the pathology report to his car and read it. He knew advanced pancreatic cancer was a likely death sentence.

He wept.

He didn’t ask God to cure his illness or ask, “Why me?” He didn’t rage or consider curling up and withdrawing into himself. He decided to continue his lifelong mission.

He approached what was likely the worst event he could have imagined in the same way he had other events in his life and how he counseled other to approach bad events in their own lives.

Hemann, 66, recounted that day on a late morning last December, as the chemotherapy chemicals flowed through a tube and into his body. The oncology clinic’s small room didn’t hold much but reminders — a calendar on the wall and a clock, precious time passing with steady phone beeps from calls every few minutes.

They were from people all over Iowa reaching out to him. Parishioners and past and current students at Iowa State University called him often. He was priest at the university church St. Thomas Aquinas for 16 years before transferring to St. Patrick three years ago. Students called him Rev Ev. It fit his nature. He often bridged the gap between a priest and faith-questioning students with a quick joke and goofy faces.

He sounds like the good old-fashioned priests we’ve read about in stories from years gone by. It is also almost certain that most of today’s priests see things in a similar light, despite how the anti-Church media might portray them.

“I always thought I would die in a plane crash or skiing into a tree,” Hemann said with his trademark giggle.

“I’m dying. But we’re all dying.

“I’ve had a very good life. And based on that experience I trust the next few months will be the same. It’s going to be a good experience rather than something terribly difficult or negative. Long ago I learned that if you focus on the negative that is what will be emphasized.”

This is a corollary to Dennis Prager’s assertion that we all have a moral duty to be happy.

Find some element of joy in everything. If you look hard enough, you will find it. Focus on the joyful elements and the less-joyful ones will fade and become less significant.

Well done, Fr. Hemann on a life well-lived.

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109 thoughts on “Tuesday Finding The Joy Open Comments

  1. AND SECONDARIAN!
    On FoxNews this morning they had a guy, David Orlicker (sp?), who proposes that we have 2 presidents one from each party!?! Talk about pandering to the worst degree, this would be an absolute disaster. Remember when the Rs took over the House and they actually agreed to a power sharing arrangement with the Ds? The Ds thwarted positive change and when they got into power they treated the Rs like lepers. Hopefully the Rs will finally figure out who their opponents/enemies are and respond appropriately, I’m not holding my breath for that one however.

  2. G-d bless Father Hemann.

    Last Thursday, Dennis Prager announced he would begin writing for Richochet.com and share his great Prager University series there.

    If Americans do not undo the intellectual and moral damage done by professors in the “social sciences,” our country will drift into historical amnesia – no University of California campus requires a single course in American history – and the moral confusion endemic to the Left.

    To help undo this damage I started Prager University two years ago. Its intent is to present many of the finest minds in the world on every great issue of life – including economics, politics, morality, sexuality, psychology, history, religion – even happiness.

    Aside from the quality of lecturers, what renders Prager U. unique are its use of internet-based video (through its own website using YouTube), very high quality illustrations to accompany the lecturer, and that every course is only five minutes long.

    This is in recognition of a) the current power of video, b) that many people are so busy that they have little time beyond work and family, and c) that the present young generation often does not have the patience or inclination to read or to watch lengthy presentations on serious subjects.

  3. James Taranto at WSJ:

    The President Finally Catches a Break
    “Barbra Streisand Won’t Sing at Obama’s L.A. Fund-Raiser”–headline, Reuters, April 8

  4. Hayward compares Obamacare in the SCOTUS to a similar failed FDR law, the National Recovery Act:

    Mr. Justice McReynolds: I want to see whether I understand [the arrangement] correctly. . . These chickens are brought into New York by the carload, and then they are taken out and put in coops? [Mr.Heller, arguing for the Schechters, says yes, and he further informs the Justice that there are thirty to forty chickens in a coop.] And if he undertakes to sell them [from the coop] he must have straight-killing?

    Mr. Heller: He must have straight-killing. In other words, the customer is not permitted to select the ones he wants. He must put his hand into the coop when he buys from the slaughterhouse and take the first chicken that comes to hand. He has to take that.

    [Laughter—recorded in the chamber.]

    Mr. Justice McReynolds: Irrespective of the quality of the chicken?

    [More laughter in the courtroom.]

    Suppose it is a sick chicken? [He is told a buyer was free to reject a sick chicken.] Now can he break up those coops and sell them, half a dozen chickens to one man, and half a dozen to another man?

    Mr. Heller: He cannot. He can sell a whole coop, or one-half of a coop. . . That is all. And when he sells five, or six, or two, or three, he cannot permit the purchaser any selection of the chickens in the coop.

    Mr. Justice Stone: Do you mean there can be a selection if he buys one-half the coop?

    Mr. Heller: No. You just break the box into two halves.

    [Laughter in the courtroom.]

    Mr. Justice Sutherland: Well, suppose, however, that all the chickens have gone over to one end of the coop?

    [More laughter in the courtroom.]

  5. My first meeting of the day began at 7AM. Some on the call were surprised to find me in attendance because my calendar indicates a vacation day. I explained that since my workday doesn’t officially start until 8AM, neither does my vacation.

  6. Remembering Mike Wallace.

    “I wish I had made another decision,” Jennings said, as if asking permission to live the past five minutes over again. “I would like to have made his decision”—that is, Wallace’s decision to keep on filming.

    A few minutes later Ogletree turned to George M. Connell, a Marine colonel in full uniform. Jaw muscles flexing in anger, with stress on each word, Connell said, “I feel utter contempt.”

    Two days after this hypothetical episode, Connell said, Jennings or Wallace might be back with the American forces—and could be wounded by stray fire, as combat journalists often had been before. When that happens, he said, they are “just journalists.” Yet they would expect American soldiers to run out under enemy fire and drag them back, rather than leaving them to bleed to death on the battlefield.

    “I’ll do it!” Connell said. “And that is what makes me so contemptuous of them. Marines will die going to get . . . a couple of journalists.” The last words dripped disgust.

    Not even Ogletree knew what to say. There was dead silence for several seconds. Then a square-jawed man with neat gray hair and aviator glasses spoke up. It was Newt Gingrich, looking a generation younger and trimmer than he would when he became speaker of the House, in 1995. One thing was clear from this exercise, Gingrich said. “The military has done a vastly better job of systematically thinking through the ethics of behavior in a violent environment than the journalists have.”

    We have all read the story before, but James Fallows’ 1996 recounting, titled Why Americans Hate the Media, is a good read.

    HT: Instapundit

  7. G’Morning All

    Great OC Pyro

    At my age I have a pretty laid back attitude on dying. I am at peace with my maker, and over the years I have inventoried my life and when I I found I had wronged someone I made amends to them. I continue to look at my life every morning and continue to to try to live life in a manner that does no harm to others. I have learned to look at my part in a situation instead of offhandedly blaming others, even to things as simple as aggravation at someone blocking the grocery aisle. I figured out that I am not mad at them for blocking the aisle, but that my ego says that I am more important than they are, so why are they stifling me? Sure makes life a lot simpler and easier to live.

  8. BTW, speaking of priests and Catholics reminds me of the story;

    Each Friday night after work, Bubba would fire up his outdoor grill and cook a steak.
    But, all of Bubba’s neighbors were Catholic…and since it was Lent, they were forbidden from eating meat on Friday.

    The delicious aroma from the grilled steaks was causing such a problem for the Catholic faithful that they finally talked to their priest.
    The Priest came to visit Bubba, and suggested that he become a Catholic.
    After several classes and much study, Bubba attended Mass…and as the priest sprinkled holy water over him, he said, “You were born a Baptist, and raised a Baptist, but now you are a Catholic.”

    Bubba’s neighbors were greatly relieved, until the first Friday night arrived, and the wonderful aroma of grilled steaks filled the neighborhood.

    The neighbors called the Priest immediately, and, as he rushed into Bubba’s yard, clutching a rosary and prepared to scold him, he stopped and watched in amazement.

    There stood Bubba, clutching a small bottle of holy water which he carefully sprinkled over the grilling meat and chanted:”You wuz born a cow, you wuz raised a cow, but now you is a catfish.”

  9. #12 OletimerLin

    Thank you. This is the most profound truth I’ve read from you. Peace.

    I figured out that I am not mad at them for blocking the aisle, but that my ego says that I am more important than they are, so why are they stifling me? Sure makes life a lot simpler and easier to live.

  10. This is really kind of creepy and real sad. The forest at the base of Mt. Fuji as become known as “the suicide forest”.

    Several years ago, I lost a nephew to suicide shortly after his 13th birthday. One can never know the psychological pain another is experiencing, we should all be very watchful of the signs and darned aware of a change in behavior.

  11. Well I hope Rommy has the testicular fortitude to withstand the long withering attack that is going to come both from the Liar in Chief @ 1600 Pa Ave, and the LSM. Romney does not need to worry about a colonoscopy anytime soon, because the LSM will take care of that for him.

  12. Well, Mitt Romney needs to work on building more spine and stronger giblets.

    Newt did not get out of the race yesterday and denied intending to do so when he appeared on Sean Hannity’s program last night.

    Given daughter Bella’s condition, it is not surprising that Rick Santorum would drop out to care for his family. Nevermind the endless maneuvering behind the scenes in all campaigns.

    Too bad the Democrats prevented our primary from taking place March 6, but that was their design, wasn’t it? Time wounds all heels, and November would be suitable.

  13. Mitt Romney – the new grilled cheese sandwich

    A real grilled cheese sammich or one of those toaster/microwave abominations?

  14. A real grilled cheese sammich or one of those toaster/microwave abominations?

    One of them ones in the fancy trendy restaurants that cost $12.00 each.

  15. Santorum has suspended his campaign

    Once again the 2nd largest state in the union does not have a say in who the candidate is going to be, SIGH

  16. Well, now the field is set and we will have 2 realistic choices in Nov, an avowed socialist/dictator wannabe or Romney. IN NOVEMBER a no vote or a vote for anyone other than Romney has the real world effect of, at best, a 1/2 vote FOR OBAMA. One can claim that they are voting their conscience by “skipping the box” or voting for Gary Johnson or Lyndon LaRouche or whomever, but the real world consequences are this:

    Anything other than an affirmative vote for Romney is the same as a vote (at least 1/2 vote) for JugEars.

    This is the cold, hard, real world truth.

  17. Now the party is going to have to work hard to get out the primary voters and get them to the precinct conventions. The TEA party will have a good shot at affecting down ballot races. Hopefully the Paulbots will fade.

  18. Bo_Nez

    IN NOVEMBER a no vote or a vote for anyone other than Romney has the real world effect of, at best, a 1/2 vote FOR OBAMA.

    Apparently you did not do well in math. But I will be glad to take the time to explain.

    1 vote for Obama = 1 vote for Obama
    1 vote for Romney = 1 vote for Romney
    1 Vote for Luap Nor = 1 vote for Luap Nor
    1 Skip the Box = 1 Skip the Box

    We have three votes for someone and one vote for no one. No place in this REAL WORLD equation does Obama get a half vote much less a whole vote that was cast for someone other than him.

    This is the cold, hard, real world truth.

    So here is YOUR problem. You have three, possibly more, groups with which to work on to vote for Romney, go get ‘em. In your spare time when you are not campaigning for Romney here is an online math class for you.

    Now if you can find me some explanation where your proclamation above is correct and it can convince me it is a real world truth as you claim then I may reconsider. Probably won’t but hey we believe in miracles don’t we.

  19. Well, now the field is set and we will have 2 realistic choices in Nov, an avowed socialist/dictator wannabe or Romney. IN NOVEMBER a no vote or a vote for anyone other than Romney has the real world effect of, at best, a 1/2 vote FOR OBAMA. One can claim that they are voting their conscience by “skipping the box” or voting for Gary Johnson or Lyndon LaRouche or whomever, but the real world consequences are this:

    In the real world, where we vote for Electors to go to the Electoral College, my skipping that box will send a message, but will not keep Romney from getting those electors.

    So I will send the message as that is the most effective use of my vote.

  20. In the real world, where we vote for Electors to go to the Electoral College, my skipping that box will send a message, but will not keep Romney from getting those electors.

    So I will send the message as that is the most effective use of my vote.

    And SARGE gettzit. That is the beauty of our electoral system. He can vote or not as his conscience dictates and it is no bidness but his own. IF you think SARGE or I may not vote/or not the way you want then it is your responsibility (IF YOU CHOOSE) to REASON with us, BUT you must also let us us reason with you if you CHOOSE to plead your case.

  21. Establishment Republicans are running Romney because they say he will appeal to moderates and independents.

    If they feel that is what it takes to win elections, they should not be concerned if I vote or not.

    If, however, my vote is crucial, they should have picked a candidate I want to vote for.

  22. I was so hoping this thing would go to a brokered convention. D*mn*t, now I have to listen to Darren ;)

    Any of y’all got any good crow recipes btw?

  23. I’m gonna miss Santorum. Although I disagree with most of what he says and could never even consider hanging my chad for him, he strikes me as genuinely sincere about his wacky policies. For that, he has my respect, and I could have a beer with him.

    I wonder if McRomney will pull a McCain and select a Sarah Palin-like veep. I hear Santorum is looking for work. And then, there’s always Michelle Bachmann.

    It ain’t over till the fat lady sings, y’all. There’s much more entertainment ahead right after a word from our sponsors.

  24. Just vote for Romney.

    He’s dreamy.

    AND he has magic underpants!

    I think the old adage, “If you don’t vote you can’t beotch” is silly. Those that don’t vote are really the only ones that have the legitimacy to beotch when things go to hell. “Don’t look at me, I didn’t vote for him!” ;-)

  25. OK lSqweek:
    After the election in NOVEMBER the prez will either be Obama or Romney; if you think otherwise the conversation stops here because you are irrational. It will only be either Romney or Obama who have any chance whatsoever of winning in November. I don’t like this scenario, but that is the way it is.
    If you vote for Romney IN NOVEMBER you cancel out a vote that will be cast for Obama. If you vote for neither Obama nor Romney you fail cancel out the vote for Obama and the real world net result in this case is a 1/2 vote for Obama.
    That is the real world end result of your action, IN NOVEMBER, a vote for anyone other than Romney helps Obama.
    Let’s look at this a little differently, do you really think Romney will be as bad or worse than Obama; if you do, then the conversation stops here because you are irrational.

  26. Let’s be clear, Romnuts is not my idea of a great candidate, but he beats the crapola out of Obama and that, when you boil all the rest away is the choice we have to make. Further, the down ballot races are crucially important as a more conservative house and an R controlled senate will/should help keep Romney, should he get elected, from swimming to the left.

  27. Bo_Nez you are the mistaken AGAIN.

    1 vote per 1 person per 1 candidate in the state that you reside. The person that garners the most 1 person votes win in that state wins that states electoral votes and that state then sends the folks to the electoral college where if your candidate won your state and won enough electoral college votes then that person becomes president.

    This isn’t baseball where you have 1/2 game leads. If Obama wins Texas in the general it will be by AT LEAST 50% + 1 vote. Not 1/2 vote, not 1/3 vote……… 1 vote. If I do not vote there is not some committee that sets up there and says well Squawk skipped the damn box box again…… give Obama 1/2 vote cause he gets kings X rules and he is the incumbent. Basic first grade math is sufficient as an explanation.

    You sir are just like the rest of the fear mongers that like to toss out that tired old “saying” to give folks some guilt trip. It sounds all intelligent and stuff but it is an out right lie. People like you like to tell people like me I am thorwing away my vote if I vote 3rd party. Well sir that is in the eye of the beholder. If I vote for a 3rd party guy it is because I want him to be the president, I believe he should be president and I believe he can win and be the best president. He may not win, probably won’t, but I will have done my due diligence and did what even you yourself have touted right here in Hamanistan voted for whom I thought was most conservative and the best to run the country.

  28. I will vote for Romney. I am not sure how good he will be, but his worst will be better than anything Obama has done. I said a long time ago I would vote for whomever the Republican Party nominates as long as it was not Ron Paul. I sincerely hope Mitt surprises us all and turns out to a good president because I think he will assume that office next January.

    If for no other reason, I will cast my vote based on the judiciary – district judges, appellate judges and especially the Supreme Court. My second reason is the regulatory Leviathan of the executive branch which is completely out of control and must be stopped.

    I believe Romney will face a contentious, recalcitrant and more conservative House and marginally majority Republican Senate. He will be forced, for the most part, to follow or at least acquiesce to the goals of the legislative branch. And that is not to mention a really cantankerous, skeptical party base who will be on his ass constantly. If he thinks his biggest problems are Democrats, he does have another thing coming.

  29. Sean Hannitty had the daughter of Jesse Jackass on the radio this afternoon and the woman would not condemn (after hearing it) the NBP for their incendiary racist speech, their calling for a race war and the call to spill lots of white blood.
    The woman kept repeating that she simply wants Zimmerman arrested. The fact is that Zimmerman was arrested the very night of the shooting, that is why he rode to the police station in the back of a car, in handcuffs. He was arrested, and the DA who looked at the preliminary evidence deemed there was not enough evidence to gain a conviction. Remember, Z was arrested the night of the shooting.

  30. Texpat (PBUH)
    #45

    You were doing so well till this:

    If he thinks his biggest problems are Democrats, he does have another thing coming.

    I am wondering if that is going to be a true statement concerning the electorate. If past history is any indication the vocal majority will still be the obnoxious minority (lib dems). We shall see.

  31. Squawk, I never said that there are 1/2 votes counted and I think you know that. I said the net effect would be a 1/2 vote. IF the 3rd party is on the right of the political divide, it siphons votes away from the R candidate and the D wins; remember Ross Perot. . .his antics gave us Clinton who never won 50% of the popular vote, either time. When the 3rd party is from the left like Nader, in 2000, you get votes drawn away from the Ds and the R wins, even if it is a squeeker. The bottom line is, in NOVEMBER, if you don’t vote for Romney, you are helping re-elect Obama. Whatever your personal convictions are or how you choose to morally justify your vote, a vote for anyone but Romney IN NOVEMBER, helps Obama and there is no getting around that end-result reality.
    If you want to really vote your conscience and make a statement, do so in the primary as that will definitely send the message to Romney (should he get elected) that he is on probation.

  32. IF you think that Texas will vote for Romney is sufficient numbers that your vote for NOT ROMNEY won’t matter, go for it – I’m not going to take that risk.

  33. If you vote for Romney IN NOVEMBER you cancel out a vote that will be cast for Obama. If you vote for neither Obama nor Romney you fail cancel out the vote for Obama and the real world net result in this case is a 1/2 vote for Obama.

    No, it won’t.

    This is Texas. Romney will win Texas. Romney is in no danger of losing Texas. Its not even going to be close in Texas. All of Texas’ Electors will go to the Electoral College and will vote for Romney.

    That’s going to ahppen whether Me, Squawk, and a few tens of thousands of Texans skip the box or not, he’s going to win Texas. No danger to Romney in Texas. Romney will win Texas. He will get all of the Electoral Votes in Texas.

    Its safe for me to skip that b ox and send that message. That’s because Romney will win Texas. He will get all of Texas’ electoral Votes.

    45 Texpat says:
    April 10, 2012 at 4:53 pm
    I will vote for Romney.

    Where you vote, it will be important enough not to skip the box.

    See how it works Bones?

  34. 49 Bonecrusher says:
    April 10, 2012 at 5:07 pm
    IF you think that Texas will vote for Romney is sufficient numbers that your vote for NOT ROMNEY won’t matter, go for it – I’m not going to take that risk.

    That’s fine for you. But if Romney is in danger of not carrying Texas to any degree, its because he sucks as a candidate—and that’s not my fault.

  35. Bones;

    If romnney wins by one vote in Texas, he will get all of Texas’ Electoral Votes.

    None of those extra votes will count any where else.

    He only needs to win by one vote.

    And he will win by lots more than that.

  36. Squawk, you did raise an interesting point about the Electoral College; it could be that they, whomever they are, choose to put O back in regardless how the electoral count turns out on NOV 06. Are there D infiltrators in the R electoral pool, is the situation reversed? If there are any shenannagans with the Electoral College, count on riots across the country and O declaring martial law, unless he wins.

  37. There is no net effect but 1 vote period end of story Bones. Now that I have settled that.

    IF the 3rd party is on the right of the political divide, it siphons votes away from the R candidate and the D wins; remember Ross Perot.

    So here is YOUR problem….. YOU and hundreds of millions of your friends join us 3rd party voters. Problem solved huh? ;)

    The bottom line is, in NOVEMBER, if you don’t vote for Romney, you are helping re-elect Obama.

    If I vote for anyone besides RomObamneya it is because I believe that person is the best candidate and I believe they can win. Again eye of the beholder.

    So I will ask you one question, if my moral convictions, beliefs, principles, which have carried very far in life, preclude me from shaking hands with Romney because I do not care for his politics, disagree with his politics, cannot stand his politics and decide to vote for Gary Johnson (Just Saying) you are telling me I am wrong? You are telling me that I should betray my own principles huh? A simple yes or no will suffice for a response. I will know what you mean.

  38. He only needs to win by one vote.

    I got that completely. Remember all the catterwalling about how Gore may have actually won the popular vote but Bush won the electoral college, therefore he won? I think we need a convincing victory both popular vote and electoral vote to shut the left up and let them know that the people have spoken and the voice was not confused.

    But if Romney is in danger of not carrying Texas to any degree, its because he sucks as a candidate—and that’s not my fault.

    Romney was never my 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice, however, if it is a choice between Romney and Obama, for me there is no choice but Romney. I am pretty sure that is what we are looking at now.

  39. Romney was never my 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice, however, if it is a choice between Romney and Obama, for me there is no choice but Romney. I am pretty sure that is what we are looking at now.

    I felt the same about McCain.

    But I was a new born puppy at the time.

    My eyes are open now.

  40. #55: Here in Texas, it prolly won’t matter as Romney will likely win anyway. In a state that is a genuine battleground state, your actions would be selfish and self defeating in my opinion.
    Let’s be real clear here, I don’t particularly like Romney, the issue is that we won’t have a recognizable country left in O is re-elected.
    Someone I don’t particularly care for(Romney) vs the Devil in human flesh (jugears) is not a tough decision for me.
    If you choose not to decide (between one of those 2) you still have made a choice.

  41. So what you are saying Bo_Nez I should just roll over and sell my soul huh? Sweet. Whadduh Kontree.

    At any point in history we get exactly the government we deserve.
    General Tommy Franks

    And this is why.

  42. Oh and Bo_Nez
    You keep telling me how much Romney is not even your third choice and then try to convince me I should just go pull the lever cause he is the best of two worsts.

    BUHWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    /Thank you Lord God for making it so I do not have to get my happiness and security from this system.

    /OUT

  43. Romney is the geek kid who got a date with the Cheerleader because she was holding out for the Quarterback and he asked somebody else instead.

    He ain’t gettin any.

    He ain’t even gettin a kiss.

    Just every other dance.

    And we’ll be looking around the room at other people while we do it.

  44. Bob42
    #64
    BSue and I were discussing the half vote theory. She said to make sure Obama did not get a half vote she would vote for Romney and I would vote for Obama, and we would cancel each others vote and Obama would get nuthin.

    She is so smart. That is why I married her.
    /Twice

  45. In a post that might give some hope to Romney supporters, John Podhoretz stumbles on a real big problem:

    Without a recovery to ride like a surfer rides a wave, Obama will be compelled to find another path to victory — by making the choice of Romney as unpalatable as possible and thereby presenting himself as the minimally acceptable alternative.

    Quite frankly, that’s not going to be all that hard to do.

  46. #66 Squawk, back when I was a republican, my wife would vote dem just to pull my chain. Such was her only interest in politics. Needless to say, I’m glad I’m not a republican anymore, and thrilled that she’s not here.

    Seriously, Obama (or any 3rd party candidate) has as much chance of taking Texas as the world does of ending in December 2012.

    Bidding starts at $2.50

  47. Seriously, Obama (or any 3rd party candidate) has as much chance of taking Texas as the world does of ending in December 2012.

    Heh, the discussion was not about Texas. ;)

  48. Is that a bid for my vote, or are you starting an auction for yours? Gee, what nerve! Both of our presidential chads are worthless. I thought $2.50 was overpriced.

  49. Well I just got here and have not read anything but, wagonburner your topic for today is Great! If anyone here hasn’t watched the video, it’s a must see. Dang, I must have something in my eyes.

  50. Sunoco threatening to close their third refinery in July. The glut of supply and weak demand has lead to overcapacity that is closing the refineries on the east coast.

    Half the refining capacity on the populous US east coast is set to disappear. Sunoco has pulled the plug on two refineries already and warns that another in Philadelphia will close in July if no buyer steps forward. ConocoPhillips is trying to sell a refinery in Pennsylvania, idle since last year. On May 1, it will spin off its refining business. More than 3m barrels of daily refinery capacity have closed in western countries, since the financial crisis, says the International Energy Agency, the west’s oil watchdog.

  51. He was willing to take the accept credit before he bankrupted the country.

    “I wish they weren’t called the ‘Bush tax cuts,’ ” he said of the tax rates set to expire at the end of the year. “If they were called some other body’s tax cuts, they’re probably less likely to be raised.”

  52. Shamaal
    #76
    Heh
    I remember the days when (royal) “we” were arguing that the US did not have enough refining capacity. About a month ago I got into an argument with those same people that oil or gas supply was NOT our problem now.

    Soooooo let us speculate just why gas prices are so danged high.

    EHHHH Wrong answer

    No it is not unrest in Middle East

  53. He was willing to take the accept credit before he bankrupted the country.

    That is the funniest comment I have read today. Turn to page 47 of the moderator’s hand book and you will find the usual left v/s right arguments on that issue and we will just call it even for tonight. ;)

  54. #36;

    I was so hoping this thing would go to a brokered convention. D*mn*t, now I have to listen to Darren ;)

    Can Darren say “I told you so?”

    Besides, I don’t think, taking a line from Firefly “there’s a power in the verse” which can make you listen to anyone. So the choice is yours. :)

    (In Firefly “verse” means “universe”).

  55. George Zimmrman’s lawyers quit. I would not be surprised if Zimmerman’s become suicidal. I hope not.

  56. #77 shamaal

    He was willing to take the accept credit before he bankrupted the country.

    This is your best shot, uh, er, Barack’s best shot, I mean ? Really. Seriously.

    And you actually expect people to buy this ?

    it’s pretty ridiculous and has taken on the dread aroma of a over-beaten dead horse.

    Honestly…you’re going to have to try harder.

  57. #81 Darren
    They’ve never even met him. They did set up a fund however with Zimmerman’s father to raise funds, not to mention made a number of statements with serious ethical questions. It didn’t help that Zimmerman’s trying to contact the special prosecutor and Sean Hannity without their assistance. The special prosecutor refused to talk to Zimmerman without the presence of his attorney, good for her.

  58. I just work with the material and the facts.
    If you cut income and not outgo, the results are predictable. Sorry if that’s not exciting.

  59. The results of the Kennedy tax cuts had a different outcome than the Bush tax cuts.
    And at the time they were not called the Kennedy taxcuts, anymore than folks refer to the Obama tax cuts. ;)

    These guys wanted the credit, I say let them have it.

  60. *checks pockets for BC/BS card* as I head for the ER to get stitches in my tongue :)

    Brutha Squawk you might inquire (if you can stomach the inevitable Bovine Processed Hay response) if “anyone” (koff) can factually elucidate the disparity between a TAX cut and a tax RATE cut…………………..

    Naw never mind – I like you WAY too much to put you through that much CaCa de TORO

  61. #84 shamaal

    You are not that dumb. I don’t believe you believe this line of crap.

    I just work with the material and the facts.

    If you cut income and not outgo, the results are predictable. Sorry if that’s not exciting.

  62. #45 Texpat
    Thank you for stating my case so perfectly that I am saved from any effort to try to write it up, imperfectly, myself. I think we must vote for Romney to help defeat Obammy and get him the hell out of our lives.

  63. No Shamaal on Kennedy next page midway down.

    AND the media assigned the name Bush Tax cuts. C’mon man that is the oldest trick in the world. And just because my lovely wife has told me I WAS NOT GOING TO GET INTO A LONG WINDED DISCUSSION, (bold is her emphasis not mine) I will cease and desist with a question.

    Had Bush not given those (snicker snicker giggle) astronomical tax cuts do you really think they would balance the trillions of dollars of Obama Debt?

    Have a nice night. BSue is threatening me with the couch as my place of rest for the night if I continue.

  64. #61 Shannon

    You box-skippers are the horned spawn of the seven-headed monster.

    OMG, you getzit.
    :D

  65. C’mon Squawk, who’s wearing the speedos here? ;)

    If the Republicans had kept the Democrat House rule of no spending without an offsetting revenue stream unless 2/3rds of the House votes for it; would there be much of a debt to talk about?

    “There’s no evidence whatsoever that the Bush tax cuts actually diminished revenue. They increased revenue, because of the vibrancy of these tax cuts in the economy,” said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY).

    There’s a couple hundred more by Republicans, and with some effort I could prolly find a Frank Lutz paper.

  66. Mitten’s slogan 2012

    Mittens McCain he’s our man
    If he can’t win it no one can
    I just hope he doesn’t say
    Obumma’s a nice guy, just lead astray
    You don’t have a thing to fear
    If the current dictator gets another 4 years
    Juan McCain tried that in O-eight
    And gave up these United States
    To a man with a phony birth certificate
    Funded by Soros the degenerate

  67. #93 shamaal

    If the Republicans had kept the Democrat House rule of no spending without an offsetting revenue stream unless 2/3rds of the House votes for it; would there be much of a debt to talk about?

    Oh, yes, there would be a bottomless pit of debt.

    This is bullsh*t squared and stupidity cubed.

  68. Speaking of that sneaky old media playing tricks on people, Mike Huckabee had his first show today. And arranged for an undisclosed ringer as his first guest.

    “Jeff:
    Thanks for listening to the show. To your question a colleague in the company was excited about the new show and arranged to call in with the first question without Governor Huckabee’s knowledge. When I learned of this I began the process of reminding my colleagues in the company that we should reserve air-time for our listeners and refrain from calling in to our own shows.
    John”

  69. Gawker’s claiming to have a mole inside Fox News …… whatever.
    But it is an interesting story.

    The video above is of Mitt Romney and Sean Hannity bantering before the taping of an interview for the “Hannity Vegas Forum” in February. Of note: Romney professes his and his wife Ann’s well-known love of horseriding, praising the qualities of the “Austrian Warmbloods” that his wife rides—the are “dressage” horses, he notes—while maintaining his own preference for the “smoother gait” of his own “Missouri foxtrotter.”
    Now there’s nothing wrong with Mitt and his wife loving horseback riding. But remember this video next time Romney attacks Obama for golfing. The inherent elitism and snootiness of golf is NOTHING compared to competitive horseback riding. And I think Mitt loses points with the GOP base for his correct pronunciation of dressage. To GOP-voter ears it sounds not only gay, but even worse, French.

  70. I hope someone nice gets the advantage of this easy setup for the big 1-0-0.
    Night all Hamsters.

  71. #96
    C’mon texpat, you’re a pretty smart cookie.
    What happens if you spend more than you take in?

    Hmmmmmmmmmmm …………..

    OK, some of you still may have checkbooks.
    What happens if you write checks for a larger amount than you have money in your account?
    Yes, you in the back on the right ……no, you don’t automatically become a republican candidate, there’s a primary first. Yes you on the left, that’s right …………. you have a debt.

    Now here’s the tough question, what if you start receiving less money than you are spending, what happens?

    Bueller …………………… Bueller ……………..

  72. If Gawker’s wrong I don’t think they will have an investigation and fire those responsible, but it is a nice expectation.

  73. 103 Shannon

    Yawn, now you have me doing it.
    Yes, it is late and time for bed.

    Say goodnight Gracie

  74. But I was a new born puppy at the time.

    My eyes are open now.

    And I can tell you’re still sucking down milk.

  75. Utah Elections Director Mark Thomas said a designated agent for the Gingrich campaign brought the filing papers and a check for $500 in March, but the state was notified by the bank that the check had bounced. He said the office has tried to contact the Gingrich campaign through the telephone number and email provided on the application, but has not received a response.

    I’m sure Callista’s got 50 bucks on her but why bother? I think Utah will go to Romney.

    Rolly: Newt Gingrich stiffs Utah

  76. C’mon texpat, you’re a pretty smart cookie.
    What happens if you spend more than you take in?

    Why you buy all your employees new cars, raise their wages and benefits, and tell your customers to pay more or you will seize every thing they own. Like duh, silly. What are the customers gonna do, find another service provider? Like I said, a guy who will never sign his own paycheck.

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