A brou-ha-ha erupted recently over the Obama administration’s move to require all health plans to offer coverage for contraceptives, including the “morning after pill”. The policy requires this of all health plans, including those offered by Catholic universities, hospitals, dioceses, and other Church-sponsored entities.
This puts those institutions in an untenable position: they either accede to the demands of the administration, even though it goes against Church doctrine, or face severe penalties that may ultimately make continuing their missions impossible. It is common knowledge that Church explicitly deems artificial contraception, abortion, in-vitro fertilization, and other similar procedures as intrinsically immoral.
This proscription results from the teaching that human life, from its earliest moment, e.g., the moment of conception, is inherently precious beyond telling. Anything done to end that life prior to its natural conclusion is per se evil.
So, given this teaching, the Obama administration is now seeking to force Church-related institutions to violate these teachings.
Some seek to discount this by quoting statistics of how many Catholics use artificial contraception and otherwise violate the teachings of the Church.
This is a red herring argument. They seek to advance their misguided opinions by confusing Holy Mother Church, guided by the Supreme Wisdom of the Holy Spirit, with the imperfection of her members. The laity of the Church is composed of fallen sinners who do not live up to the expectations and guidance of God. Business Insider came up with a pretty apt analogy:
To give an analogy, it would be like the government mandating that all delis, even Kosher delis, serve pork products and then justifying it by saying that protein is healthy, and many Jews who don’t follow Kosher laws and many non-Jews go to those delis. The law wouldn’t technically ban Jews from owning delis, but it would effectively ban their ability to run them according to their conscience.
That we are all imperfect does not mean that we should simply give up and give in to whatever the prevailing public opinion of right and wrong might presently be. What it means is that we should redouble our efforts to do what is right, just, and on the path toward Righteousness, perhaps in spite of what prevailing public opinion or our base desires might otherwise say.
Last Sunday, virtually all (if not actually all) Catholic churches in the US were read a statement from their local bishops regarding this infringement on religious liberty. Daniel Cardinal DiNardo, Archbishop of Galveston-Houston and Chair, Committee on Pro-Life Activities of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops published this statement:
As shepherd of the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston and chair of the U.S. Bishops’ Committee on Pro-Life Activities, I am distressed to learn that the Department of Health and Human Services’ mandate that sterilization, abortifacients and contraception be included in virtually all health plans is being upheld. This mandate gravely compromises religious liberty.
The contraceptive/sterilization mandate imposed on health plans by HHS violates religious freedom, which is guaranteed by the First Amendment and several federal laws. Forcing all employers to buy coverage for sterilization and contraceptives, including drugs that induce abortion, is a radical incursion into religious liberty and freedom of conscience.
HHS’s mandate includes an incredibly narrow exemption for “religious employers” that protects almost no one. Those who sponsor, purchase and issue health plans should not be forced to violate their deeply held moral and religious convictions in order to take part in the health care system or provide for the needs of their families, their employees or those most in need.
Today’s announcement that the mandate and its very narrow exemption will not change is deeply disappointing to me. As Cardinal-designate Timothy Dolan, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said, “To force American citizens to choose between violating their consciences and forgoing their health care is literally unconscionable. It is as much an attack on access to health care as on religious freedom.”
I join my brother bishops, fellow Catholics and all people of goodwill who prize religious liberty as a cornerstone of our common life in expressing strong opposition to the HHS mandate.
h/t: katfish
The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops were one of the biggest advocates for universal health care. They wanted government intrusion into our lives, they got it.
G’Morning All
So when has that stopped OBH?
I snuck out and took a picture of TT’s house yesterday
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6174/6142096285_d6a870ed5c.jpg
GJT
This you?
20 Naked Pentecostals in a Pontiac
The Catholics know that their future is with the Latinos since they represent the major population growth segment in the country. Therefore, they were willing to trade immigration reform (open borders) for health care. It’s all about politics. Now the issue is whether the Pope can really dictate terms to the Messiah – and the Messiah seems to think he knows best.
13 states already require healthplans to provide contraception access. I’m reasonably certain that these states still have functioning churches of all types. Texas requires that the employer notify the employee if their plan does not cover contraception.
Think hard – if you have employer provided insurance and have not received this notice – you can draw your own conclusions.
What HHS’ new rule rule does is make these plans offer it without cost.
#4
Not me, I don’t own a Pontiac. Wonder if they’d all fit it Ms. TT’s house?
Chronicle has a good article on new rules for Home Owner Associations this morning. Also a HOA must go through a judge to foreclose on your home, it would be nice if we could apply that same procedure to mortgage companies.
I found TT’s house on Google Maps. It does look like an octopus, a pale blue octopus with one big glass eye, visible from space… Her dirt pile may be visible from space, too, if that’s it on the west side of the back yard.
Who’d a thunk it?
Interesting development over in Faux News world.
I don’t follow Ultimate Fight Club (UFC) stuff. Apparently Fox Sports Media Corp runs it and is no longer interested in UFC being associated with guns and knives.
Apparently FSMG does not want their UFC brand tainted by the perception of violent zealots. There’s big trouble brewing if this spills over into Faux News Corp.
Here’s a little blurb by artist Jon McNaughton and a painting he did which is making the rounds of the net. Warning: Graphic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KGlBHyVeYU
So there are no questions as to where O was born or his citizenship, eh? Anybody who brings up these GLARING INCONSISTENCIES is deemed a troll, kook, conspiracy theorist, etc; why then has there been no credible answer to these and about 15 other credible questions?
I was just wondering if the MSNBC spitter ever flew to Arizona to beat up Governor Jan Brewer for pointing her finger in his loverboy’s face. You mess with that tingle up his tinkle and you’re in a heap of trouble.
And it wasn’t just the spitter–the entire PrOpObummagandist media was in an uproar over the incident. They were crying, and whining and beating themselves with chains in protest over the incident.
You just can’t do that to their superhero, phony birth certificate, no college transcripts released, Fast and Furious cover up, Solyndra scamming, Obummacare waivers for Pelozi’s pals in Frisco, Czar infested, Jeremiah Wright preaching, need a breath-a-lator for asthma when traveling in all 57 states, most nontransparent president/dictator ever.
Shame on the Governor. She should have to spend 30 days in the box in the hot Arizona desert with only a thimble of water and a slice of bread.
#12 Wimpy
Interesting, that’s the second time that painting has been here (not counting last year) I’m guessing that one of the candidates is promoting it. I don’t see it on Faux Noise, so it doesn’t appear someone from their stable. I would guess the Romney crowd, if it’s sold at their website – that would clinch it.
Although very well executed and an instant crowd pleaser, it will fall into the same class of political art as this.
#13 – Say bonetroll, got a link for that quote?
How about a follow-up to that Georgia case?
OK Boneboy, I’ll feed you one more time, then it’s off to work. Don’t wait up for me.
You did get one thing correct though
Sham: I have not yet seen a follow up to the Georgia case and would really like to. You call me a troll because I bring up really uncomfortable questions that neither you nor any of you ilk have been able to answer:
1) Why does no one remember JE from his years at Columbia
2) Why has he refused (and spent great sums to hide) to release his college transcripts
3) Why has he refused to release his student aid documentation, which could easily document that he registered as a foreign student
4) Why did the LSM give him a pass when he spent 20 years in the church of a nut-bag like Jeremiah Wright
5) He was supposedly adopted by Lolo Soetero (sp?) an Indonesian citizen, how does that not make him a dual citizen at best and definitely not a natural born citizen
6) What wissin difference does it make where I got my information?? Is the info true or false? Particularly the details about the hospital name, the name of the African country, the race of the father, and other glaring inconsistencies in the birth certificate released BY THE WISSIN WHITE HOUSE! I found 2 or three glaring errors in the BC and I am no document expert.
7) Why can’t the prez simply release the genuine documents and put all this to rest, why has he spent millions to keep it secret, what does he have to hide other than the fact that he is ineligible to be pres??
I have yet to read a credible answer to any of the above questions; ya wanna give it a try or are you going to simply throw up your normal smokescreen of BS and insult? How about it, can you simply and credibly answer any of the questions above?
/not holding my breath
RE Today’s OC
If you have not signed the Manhattan Declaration, you can sign it HERE.
You can also find a study guide to help explain these points HERE.
Every time I process The Forgotten Man on McNaughton’s website, with the zoom connected to scrolling commentary, I notice something new. Spotted for the first time today: American flag at half-mast on the White House.
No, I did not go out to the Wayback last night.
Thursday night, while coming home from Bible Study, the truck made what I thought might be an expensive noise. Investigation proved two things:
1. It was indeed a noise.
2. It was expensive.
Spent the yesterday and last night at SO’s house without the puter until they could get me a courtesy car today.
130 Super Dave says:
I have had the intense pleasure of working as ground crew on the only flying example of the Thomas Morse S4C Scout owned by my freind Roger Freeman, as well as several other aircraft he has built or restored using the Gnome-LeRhone engine. Pre-flight is rather tedious as each cylinder has to be primed with both fuel and castor oil, and the priming must be done with the cylinder at top dead center, thus requiring hand rotation of the engine completely through one cycle.
Starting the engine involves vigorously pulling on the propellor to get the engine to rotate enough to bring it to life, much in the same way as pulling a cord on a lawn mower does. The engine realistically as only two speeds: Stop and go. My duties on ground crew were to hold on to the airplane (along with at least three other guys) after engine start while the pilot made some rudimentary throttle adjustments and did a pre-takeoff final check. There is no way to throttle down enough to keep the plane from moving forward.
To reduce airspeed while landing, the pilot has what is called a “blip switch” which momentarily shuts down the engine. As he enters final, he shuts the engine on and off until speed is reduced to a safe level, then touches down and shuts the engine off.
We were invited to Randolph AFB as part of an airshow commemorating the 50th Anniversary of the creation of the Air Force. The S4 was the American made fighter plane used by the United States, and they placed us next to the F117, which at the time was the most modern fighter. Roger flew the plane over to Randolph Field and had to land in the grassy area between runways. They closed the field down when he did it because of the unusual conditions. Several airmen on the flight line that day were under the impression that roger had made an emergency landing due to the fact that the field was closed and the engine was shutting off an on as he came in.
Sarge: What happened to your truck?
WB
I understand how onerous it is to require the church financed insurers for Catholic plans to provide indirect financial support for artificial contraception, abortion, and in-vitro fertilization, but don’t you believe that most employees of Catholic Institutions are Catholics in good standing and would not dream of using such services.
There are a lot of Catholics covered by private insurers that do not use these services.
Simple
#23 Simple: I have to agree with Homer on this one, the actions of the current admin are a gross violation of the 1st amendment. They are directly impeding the free exercise of religion by requiring the funding of that which is prohibited by their religion.
Simple, isn’t that a little like saying we don’t need to worry too much whether murder is against the law or not, since most people prolly won’t kill you anyway?
Dude has a Nissan Leaf. Dude is disappointed in the relatively short range and long recharge times. Dude has brilliant idea.
Dude puts a small gas turbine engine on a trailer and runs cables to the recharge port on the Leaf.
Dude is a moron. The rig cost him about $30,000, plus gives him the hassles of parking, turning it off and on, dealing with relatively hazardous propane in an exposed tank, etc. Plus gas turbines, especially small ones, are pretty inefficient. The reason they are used on airplanes is that their power/weight ratio is high due to their much lower weight and complexity relative to other engine types of equivalent power.
Dude should have just bout a car with a small diesel engine. Overall, it would be way more cost-effective and longer-lasting,
Simple,
That’s why I included the analogy about the deli above. Forcing Church-sponsored entities to pay for these coverages means that she would be required to directly fund those activities which she finds abhorrent. It robs the Church of an essential element of her foundation – that all human life is sacred beyond measure.
I also think it violates the establishment clause of the 1st Amendment.
Ben Gazzara is no longer running for his life.
That show was a favorite of my Dad and I. I asked him once why he liked it (I liked it b/c he did) and he said “Well, if enough people watch it, they will keep it on TV. Its kind of like I’m keeping him alive.”
I’ll never forget the Bonneville Salt Flats in the opening and closing credits.
Actions taken by the nation’s first anti-Catholic president are despicable. Nobody should be forced to pay for contraceptions or abortions.
“Ya know, babe, I can be your recess daddy.
/ Purrrrrrrr.”
Cops Bust Naked Burglar Covered In Chocolate, Peanut Butter
Howzat reset button working out for you Hitlery?
We really need to make sure that the Chinese and the Russians like us, seeing as they have been so cooperative with us in the past.
/cusses, spits , kicks the wall
Person sworn to uphold the US constitution wouldn’t necessarily recommend it for anyone else. Justice Ginsburg to Egypt: Don’t Look to the US Constitution as a Model.
#33 GJT: I remember her “confirmation” hearings (more of a squishy rubber stamp); she refused to answer most questions which would have exposed her as the Constitution hating marxist she is.
Guess where this happened:
A police action, which involved a foot chase, a pit bull, pepper spray, a brawl, a Taser and a bystander stabbing himself twice.
Ta-da!
Duh. Florida.
In the mug shots, I think “she” looks like a long-haired man.
Idiot student in West Virginia sues his fraternity because a bottle rocket startled him and caused him to fall off a deck.
That’s not the funny part, although it is kinda funny. The funny part has to do with where the bottle rocket blew up. Given it was a frat party, I think we can hazard a guess.
As if anyone had to guess, being that it was at a frat party, there was alcohol involved. Funny comment:
Bank robbers roll a little differently in…
#37-38 It should be obvious to anyone that the absence of a warning label is what allowed this tragic event to happen. It’s about time someone sued the bottle rocket company for failing to properly place appropriate warning labels on their products. There just can be no other explanation for this to happen except for the absence of proper labeling and warnings. I mean even professional football players have warning labels on their helmets, and while I have not read the fine print even with the advent of HDTV, I’m sure they have some language on there about where not to put them.
#21 Sarge, That is way too COOL! I didn’t go into much detail about the Gnome engine, but as you know it was a “lost oil” engine, none in the crankcase, it was like a two stroke in that the castor oil was mixed with the fuel and feed into the crankcase and introduced to the cylinder via the poppet valve on top of the piston. As a “Side Bar” the reason the aviator always had a scarf was to wipe the dayaam oil off his goggles so he could see where he was going.
Airplane always requires a wipe down after flight—castor oil everywhere. Its also why the windscreens were so small. Any bigger and it would be too difficult to wipe the castor oil off.
EG: I have read the warning labels on bottle rockets; it says DO NOT HOLD IN HAND, LIGHT AND GET BACK. I guess it should have said DO NOT SHOVE UP YOUR @-$ AND LIGHT!
#38 Bonecrusher
Roger has an airshow out in Kingsbury every year. The musuem’s focus is on ‘tween the wars. He built a really nice Fokker Tri-plane for the Air Force musuem, and a Bleriot that went to the Hing Kong airport (IIRC). He also owns a Jenny and at one time had a Staggerwing that was all in pieces that he sold for $500K to get the bux to build that aerodrome in Kingsbury. I did submittal drawings for thim that allowed him to get a hangar building from WW1 that was on Fort Sam being used as a warehouse. I haven’t been by in a long while, wo I don’t know if he ever got it put back up. The airshow attracts a lot of eclectic aircraft that you don’t normally see at airshows. Most of them are tail draggers with no tail wheels that require grass strips and don’t really have any good way to get to the airports where most airshows occur.
Well it’s been a rainy day here in Clear Lake, pretty good light show early this morning and rain off and on all day, slacked off now and it LQQks like it might fair off. Last time I checked the ole rain gauge we had 1-2 inches, we’ll take it.
I went to the Pasadena Gun Show this morning and managed to get out without spending any money, it was tough, but I managed.
Sarge, I’m not surprised that a Staggerwing Beechcraft would go for a 1/2 million in today’s dollars but it was in pieces?! How much are they in flying condition? Just shows to go ya’, I’ve been away from aviation way too long. Back in the 80′s the company I worked for bought one of the first Sikorsky S-76′s, all decked out for corporate/executive use. They paid a little over a million for it if memory serves, no telling what they’re going for today. I be thinking that the Hughes 500 D was about ½ a million back then.
It had an intact fuselage, engine, and wings, but a pretty ratty interior and some of the covering was missing from the fuselage. I can’t recall if the langing gear was there, but I do beleive it was a whole airplane. They were hanging from the rafters in the hangar he used to have out west of Santone—can’t remember the name of the little town it was in.
Roger’s a pretty interesting guy. His daddy worked for Tallmantz aviation. That Jenny he owns was used in The Great Waldo Pepper and most of the filiming was done at that airfield I can’t recall the name of. The Jenny (actually a Canuck) was one Roger restored when he was a teenager and he worked for Tallmantz during the filming. When Frank Tallman died, his wife gave Roger the entire archives that they had at the company. Its a treasure trove of maintenance and repair info on vintage aircraft of all types.
When he got older, he went to work for a private air-cargo company as a flight engineer. He was given a Flight Medal by the Air Force during Desert Shield for flying a poopload of missions into Saudi. Spent 20 years glhying around the world picking up bits and peices of airplanes of all types from all over. He had a wing spar and a couple of other pieces of a Sopwith Camel that some guy bought from him and then commisioned a restoration using those parts. At one time, he had the largest collection of Le Rhone engines and parts in the country.
A little known fact about Cessna airplanes is that they’ve actually been tested and used as time transports.
A very peaceful interlude.
2.5″ inches of good soaking rain since last night in my part of town. Getting colder now, must enjoy a little bit of cool weather before it’s back to Houston heat.
Good afternoon Hamsters. Mugly 67 at 6 and thunder rolled in the distance on the way to the barn, everything wet from yesterday and last night’s rainfall. Got the horses fed, the newspaper fetched, and back in the house only a couple of minutes before today’s deluge began. Timing is everything, whether planned or accidental. Total from yesterday and today is 1.6″, and the puddles are almost gone on the concrete, though the yard and pastures are really mushy and have puddles in low spots. It all soaks in amazingly fast as if the good Earth is still parched around here. The deep cracks have been gone since the end of December. Thank you, Lord.
Saw where EJ Dionne, an erstwhile standard bearer of the “Catholic Left,” bemoans the Obama Administration’s and Obama’s serious intrusions on the constitutional freedom of religion for Catholic beliefs in matters medical and moral Wagonburner discussed above. EJ thinks it has gone disastrously too far, and it will cost votes come the election, given the large Catholic support for Obama in 2008. EJ. ole boy, too late, it is spoken and published and can’t be erased. The hue and cry is out; members of other faiths lend their strenuously disapproving voices to the outraged. Obama and his henchmen done stepped in it bigtime. All on their own. Sit back and watch what happens. I want the popcorn concession.
Time wounds all heels.
#37 Wagonburner:
He may have been in WV, but in his heart he was from Florida!
Planes & Flawda crackers, has kilt the blog tonight.
Sha Na Na . lithograph eh? (food fer thought)
Squawkie-Tooter ltns Bubba – didja git MsTTs photoshopperoni request?
Jack The Snipper is being released on parole.
Just got in – I’ve had a busy day. Squawk has my request and has graciously offered to help me out. Chivalry lives!
What a wonderfully spent Saturday……………….I know Yall know about ‘Grace’ when it manifests itself unexpectedly in all our lives………………..well 3 BACA Heroes needed all the support that could be mustered today so I headed west about 0500 San Antonio bound – and I can honestly say I have N E V E R spent 90 minutes riding my ‘Gracie’ only 52 or so miles from Katy to Columbus (it was pretty dang stormy and raining HARD)……….raining hard enough I’m at about 45 MPH (and sometimes less) in the slow lane on I-10 with my flashers on hoping not get run over as I struggle to see only the white stripes passing by…………….some kind soul (or was it an Angel?) …………eased in behind me and put his or her flashers on – effectively “keeping the dogs off me” all the way to Columbus…………….
400 miles later and 3 more HEROES now have BACA POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
……………life is pretty wissin GOOD!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-RAH!!!!!
Katfish rides to the rescue/task again, through all kinds of weather. Awesome dedication, sir.
Dit, Dit, Dit, Dit, Dit, Dit, Dit ………………..
Breaking News …………..
Nevada had a primary, tonight. It looks like Mitt Romney will win
When the Democrats caucused in ’08 they had 116,000 voters, the Republican turnout was 44,000. Today they may make 35,000.
Reply to No. 17: With all this discussion about that birth certificate, how come somebody doesn’t get a copy of other birth certificates produced around that time? Did they have the same hospital name? Were there other “negros” born around that time and what did there birth certificate say? I’m looking for a book which will vet Obummer before November election.
Happy to have you safe back home, Katfish. This morning’s weather wasn’t fit for man nor beast. Looks like a big nasty blob is heading our way from Victoria tonight.
Puddles on the driveway and sidewalk are probably briefly gone, horses tucked in for the night, and I guess we’re ready for rain-interrupted sleep tonight. G’night all.
As pointed out 13 states already have implemented mandatory contraceptives in health plans. So the issue seems to be, not government intervention, but federal government intervention.
#62 Robert
Please don’t encourage him
Somebody’s doing well,
FWIW, the coporate tax rate is nominally 35%.
All right, you guys were right, voter fraud does exist.
And he had a drivers license and everything
If this works out as well as they think it will, Newt’s going to try it with Reagan
“Nevada had a primary, tonight. It looks like Mitt Romney will win
When the Democrats caucused in ’08 they had 116,000 voters, the Republican turnout was 44,000. Today they may make 35,000.”
Having one of the highest unemployment rates among states, no one can afford to drive to the Caucus.
64
Figured that out all by yourself?
I’m impressed.
44K to 35K, maybe. I’d chalk it up to a lack of enthusiasm.
That Romney. He sure does excite the base doesn’t he?
#70 Shannon
Don’t be, at first I thought it was rooted in some deep philosophical objection, I understand now government interference is acceptable at the state level, just not at the federal level with a Democrat administration.
I suspect others will see through it also.
Mimi Alford’s book about her affair as an intern with JFK is being released. Lots of juicy stuff that folks like to hear.
I don’t know which states have mandated that contraception must be covered in employer-provided medical insurance, even over the objections of religion-based employers, but I’d be surprised if any of said states are located in the heartland aka flyover-country. Maine, maybe? California, Oregon, Washington?
Just which are the states that currently require Catholic institutions to provide free contraceptives and abortifacients in their employee health plans?
#74
Held it in all those years with honor. Everyone’s gotta cash in at some point I suppose.
Oh the humanity!
Who says Canadian technology is falling behind?
#75 mharper42
That would be Colorado, Connecticut, Georgia, Iowa, Montana, New Hampshire, Vermont, Washington, and Wisconsin. 4 more states Arizona, California, New York and Arizona permit exemptions for religions, but not their institutions, i.e, hospitals. I’m not sure about the District of Columbia.
#76 Shannon
I never said that states require free access, I do not know whether they do or do not. As I said in #6, recent HHS rulings require no cost access to preventative medicine.
You started out with contraceptives.
Now you use the phrase “preventative medicine.”
Contraceptives are preventative medicine, it’s the language of the insurance world.
But yes, for purposes of this conversation it’s insurance provided contraceptives. Specifically, insurance plans that require prescription coverage include FDA-approved contraceptive drugs and devices.
Keep in mind this is only targeted at employer provided health plans, if the employer elects not to provide prescription service, then this application probably does not apply.
To make this clearer, St. Mary’s teaching Hospital in Flagstaff Arizona currently provides access to abortifacients to their employees, while St. Mary’s Convent isn’t required to.
(I made up St. Mary’s as an illustrative device)
Which one, Rocket Man or Scaredy Cat? Maybe he’s a transfer student.
Ummmm–
If the citizens can pick a plan that does not provide a prescription service, how then does the state government force them to?
Good afternoon Hamsters. Only a sprinkle last night and back to a breezy wintry 47 at 6 this morning. The big wet blob stayed south and is mostly in the Gulf now, but some is forming to the NW toward College Station and Brenham. Thus far it does not look ominous…. The snowmen decorations still out are comfortable again. It is still winter after all.
Picture in the Sunday Chron (page A-4) shows the Colosseum blanketed in snow, highly unusual for Rome. Europe is having nasty winter weather.
I’ve had DirecTV so long (since 2000), rate creep has made it necessary to make a change. I hate to do it, I love my DirecTV. For my little poorboy theater the picture and sound quality is gonna be hard to beat and over the years they have been very fair in upgrading my system as new technology came out to keep me as a customer. But they can’t (won’t) do anything about my rate other than small discounts and giving me freebie channels which we’ve already done a couple of times. It doesn’t do anything to help the bottom line though.
U-verse is now out here in the woods and we can bundle TV, innernet and phone for almost what my DirecTV bill is now, plus having whole house DVR. Anyone have experience with it? Pros, cons?
#87 (bear in mind I despise Comcrap – but still use em)
1. DSL will NEVER be as fast as cable no matter what label they use
2. attractive ‘into’ offers look good – check how much it will run AFTER they expire…………
I just have DSL and Netflix. Over the Air HDTV is awesome if I should ever happen to want to see something, and I don’t miss Fox News since anything interesting shows up on the net anyway. Of course, my entertainment needs are not much, but I have a couple of neighbor kids who like to come over and watch cartoon and kid movies on Netflix. Many others are out there too, like HULU, etc. but I don’t access much. Of all the things I miss, TV isn’t one of the them.
#88 & 89
Appears in the videophile forums there are some issues, but the purists will notice stuff I never would. The savings will far outweigh later rate increases or tech issues for now so I guess I’m gonna do it. Besides, if I don’t like it, I can always go back to DirecTV as a new customer, at the bottom rate rung again.
Yes, I’m sure the government will buy it.
This looks too good to be true. And there’s BACON involved!
I love the whole “don’t skip this or your life will spiral downard” thing. It just tickles my sense of humor.
If Y’all are wondering where EVERYONE in Clear Lake is, they’re at the HEB on El Camino!! Dang Dammit, all 10 checkouts were open, (I’ve never seen that before) and they were all at least three deep and 90 % of the carts were full to the brim, the guy behind me had two carts, put 8 gallons of milk on the counter and 6 gallons of apple juice! Judging from the menagerie of kids with him, (different sizes and colors) he may have been a Foster parent,….bless him, I guess.
Drug classiication is FDA driven.
I recall the fight over classification of morning-after and month-after abortion drugs.
It was oh so important for them to be generally classified as contraceptives.
So they can be rolled into the all-important, specious and oh-so-embraceable category of preventative medicine for women.
#92 Tedtam, can you say “Drooling on Keyboard’?
#95 SuperDave
/wiping mouf wif hand
What did you say?
Tedtam
BTW; Does anyone know if there is a ball game on the tube today?
I’m watching “Streets of San Francisco”. Tyne Daly is one of the characters. Dang, she was young once, and very thin. How time flies.
A friend of mine back in the early 90′s dropped his dial-up ISP to switch to another so he could get a free modem. As soon as he got the modem, he switched back at about 75% of what he was paying before.
GAME ON
duh duh duhnnnnn
Oh, did anyone catch George Will this morning, making his Super Bowl pick?
Too funny.
Madonna?? At least it is not another washed up Brit.
Dang, I just flipped over to the Game and there is a real ugly, nasty, SKANK on @ half time!?!
Who decided that this would be a good idea?!?!?
GJT #87;
We had the triple package from U-Verse until we cut off TV for financial reasons. Overall we liked the service and product. The biggest drawback is getting custormer service to do what you want. In the end they always did waht what was needed but only after persistency on our part. So while their product is acceptable their service is not all that.
I was hoping for a frisbee dog or something good at halftime.
Spouse started watching the game midway through the first quarter and has ducked out during halftime to go on his ham radio until the game starts again. I checked in at halftime to find that Madonna was the “entertainment” and came back to Hambone. Will likely go back for some of the second half to watch the outrageousely costly commercials. Want to see the Budweiser horses. The game is not important here since we don’t have a team in it.
#106 EG, Well the Puppy Bowl is on Animal Planet again, and it has always been entertaining.
Have watched it in years past.
Ms Adee, I’ve always loved the Budweiser Clydesdales and I ‘m sure that you remember the best commerical ever; “Budweiser Clydesdale Salute to 9/11″
BUTT being an old romantic, my favorite is; Budweiser Clydesdale Dream Baby
Note to self:
Always have your defensive backs wear gloves that are the same color as your opponents’ jerseys.
Super Dave #109
Yes, the 9/11 salute never fails to make me cry. Love the Dream Baby also. Whoever writes their commercials is a genius, and of course the horses are the stars.
I don’t do sports, so I was otherwise occupied during the show and game. For one thing, I read a ho-hum news story about foreign nationals including Americans being detained in Egypt.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/5/egypt-sends-43-ngo-workers-including-19-americans-/
Much better than the news report was this comment which tells it like it is.
#112
Heh, that’s pretty good. Liberals don’t see the epic fail of their ways in Cuba, Detroit, New Orleans or Kalifornia, nor did they see it in Soviet Russia. No hope in their ever seeing it in the Middle East.
#85 sarge
By my non-lawyerly reading, if the employer does not provide a prescription plan then no cost contraceptives would not be mandatory. But that kind of ruins the whole “Obama is making us do something against our religious beliefs” meme.
How did Boehner put it? Oh yeah …..
No biggie. Why should anyone care about employees of Catholic institutions? They don’t need no stinkin’ drug coverage.
I’m not that big on Star Wars, but there’s a lot of folks with time on their hands
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Besides, it’s time that priggish old church learns to keep their dogma within the walls of their places of worship.
I suspect this is a Ron Paul site, but still ………………
Is it Monday yet?
This story Gives Israel all the diplomatic ammo it needs to launch a broad spread and massive attack against Iran.
Here we have a country openly calling for genocide, the complete destruction of a sovereign nation and the murder of its people world wide. And O thinks we can achieve anything positive by negotiations?!?
Is everybody hung over on SuperBowl Monday or something?
Monday oc thread is open .
/yawwwnnnn
Stayed up late last night, working. Sorry.