From the Ludwig von Mises Institute: The Obsession with Equality
I’ve never understood the academic obsession with achieving social and economic equality.
Yeah, me neither. Our forefathers wanted equality of opportunity, not equality of outcomes.
Isn’t society better off when half the population is well off and half is less poor than if absolutely everyone is poor? Isn’t all the talk about inequality really just an urge to see the poor increase their living standards? And if that is true, shouldn’t the whole idea of equality be thrown out in favor of a hope for everyone in society to benefit on the margin from economic growth?
Normally, I like TED talks, but this guy I’m not buying.
As the blog says:
There are probably a hundred other problems in this perspective that I hadn’t thought of. You might enjoy watching and poking holes in the analysis.
Following a line of reasoning, the revisionist rewrite just doesn’t seem to have the same ring.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,that among these are [opportunities for] Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, [to create life, liberty, and happiness opportunities] …..
We may all be created equal, but after that we are on our own. (You notice that it does not say “born” equal or something like that, but rather “created.”) Well, that right is already gone, and liberty and pursuit of happiness are on board and waiting to pull out of the station. But as long as I’ve got my PS3 or my new Michael Jordans, what difference does it make?
#2 EG
And your Air Jordans.
G’Morning All
I spent many a Friday and Saturday night in Corpus Christi with my date, parked on the bluff overlooking the bay at the corner of Ocean Drive and Louisiana with the radio turned down to romantic volume.
RIP Etta, we’ll miss you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1uunRdQ61M
#2 ElGordo
I agree that we are “created” and not “born” free. I don’t know about the Air Jordans, OBH hasn’t cut my check to get them yet.
Is nothing sacred?
OBH is the master at the energy supply business:
Remember This?:
And it got us this:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/19/china-gets-jump-on-us-for-brazils-oil/?page=2
HE blocked the Keystone Pipeline a couple of days ago
And it got us this:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-19/canada-pledges-to-sell-oil-to-asia-after-obama-rejects-keystone-pipeline.html
And don’t forget how successful his green energy investments are:
More solar companies led by Democratic donors received federal loan guarantees
And how are they working out?
And it got us this:
#4 OTL
Hey, Oletimer, that is pretty close to where I lived in Corpus in the 1970s, while student at Del Mar College there. I was about a block from Spohn Hospital. But I don’t remember anything along that stretch of Ocean Drive that was open undeveloped land. So when were you there, and were you “parking” in a covered wagon?
And on the lighter side.
Do you smoke?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixAMwN11cfQ&feature=share
#7 OTL
Obammy doesn’t think it’s fair for big ole colonial Western countries like us to get first dibs on all the good stuff. He’s just leveling the playing field. Now don’t you feel better, when you see the big picture?
#8 MHarper
It was back in the ’50′s. The whole stretch from Louisiana to the S curve at the Baptist Church was empty. And no, it wasn’t a covered wagon, it was a ’51 Ford pick up, jet black exterior with chrome stacks and a red and white interior.
PS My sister in law is a VP at Del Mar. She was probably Dean of the computer dept. about the time you were there.
#10 MHarper
Oh. I thought it was because he doesn’t want oil coming from a country that doesn’t hate us.
He can never persuade us to go solar if someone’s not blowing up our buildings.
Well heck OTL, why stop there?
China is investing in shale formations here in the US along with refineries. They even got some knuckleheads trying to get the federal government to ramrod pipelines over state objections to deliver petroleum products to ports for export.
Darn those capitalists and the government that supports them!
Speaking of, off to work.
FWIW, US Oil and product exports to China were 3,788,000 bbl. There’s lots of it around. If we don’t export it, the prices come down. And that’s bad for capitalists and free marketeers.
And in the interest of full disclosure, one of my current projects is cashing in on Brazil and Petrobras; and no, I do not have any compulsions to do laundry.
http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2012/01/demint-pac-laun.php
Fannie and Freddie get all the headlines these days but be assured the FHA is insolvent, too.
Shannon,….and Gomer endorses Dewhurst.
I coulda’ figgered that.
Mornin’ Gang
Since I’ve been out of pocket for a few days, I guess y’all commented on Newt’s Slap Down of that Idiot on CNN? I watched the whole debate and it started off with a bang!
#17 SD: I don’t consider Dewchrist as evil incarnate, but that dang sure doesn’t make him my first choice either. Wasn’t it he who stood in the way of photo voter ID, punishing sanctuary cities, and prolly a few others that Sarge could expand upon? I think Ted Cruz would make a much better choice.
Van Haaaa…. The Hell?
#19 Bonecrusher, I also think Ted Cruz is the much better choice, I’ve donated to his campaign.
Oh… and Chuck Norris endorses Newt.
About my #18, I scrolled back to Firday’s “Smack Down” thread and in my best Emily Litella voice…. Nevermind.
#20 Phil: A prancing jackass like DLR is bad enough but to have someone imitate him with a bluegrass band, well, that is just going to wissin far.
I need one after my number 20 post.
#13 Shamaal: watch and learn.
Yer a regular romeo.
duck
From the comments:
#24 BC
That weren’t no imitation DLR, that were the real DLR.
SD: What do you know about this: NRA-ILA GRASSROOTS ALERT
Vol. 19, No. 03 01/20/12
#29 That prancing jackass DLR has defiled bluegrass music.
OTL, Pyro
Speaking of cheap dates: When we first moved into this house 16 years ago, there was a middle-school-age hispanic couple that regularly rode their bikes over into my cul-de-sac. They propped their bikes along the curb and talked for hours, standing in the shade of trees over the street. That went on for years. Then the boy had a car, so he would park on our street and the girl still came by bike, to sit with him in the car. I always thought the girl was telling her parents she was biking to see a female friend, and after the boy had a car, I thought maybe they couldn’t afford to drive out to a private area. So they had these daytime dates in a residential street.
Oldtimer #7;
Tão burro e doido Obama é.
Super Dave #21;
Ted Cruz tiene los mayors músculos cerebrales. ¡Puro tejano es!
#33 Darren:
Translation: That Jack@$$ Jugears is trying to destroy our country.
#36 Sarge:
This is the essence of why the Rs usually get their clocks cleaned by the Lib-terd-nozzles; they have no idea how many there are who just want the govt to get the wiss out of the way and stand strong for what the Constitution actually says and what the Founders meant when they wrote it. Ifn those spineless E-types (not to be confused with this E-type) would stop trying to get along with the Ds and just defeat them on the basis of the faulty D ideals; they would absolutely dominate the political landscape; instead of usually begging for scraps at the D hog trough.
What happened to Sarge’s post?
#7 OTL: That was a very well documented damnation of JugEars.
If you find that you can only see one more live band before you die, see the Tedeschi/Trucks band. Even if you get free tickets to see any other band, wait until you can get tickets for this one at $500 each—it will be worth it. The show last night was, quite simply, the best concert I’ve been to since 1973. That’s right, I have to go all the way back to the time Grand Funk Railroad opened for Niel Young to find a concert I remember having enjoyed nearly as much.
The band is tighter than a frog’s anal pore and presents a jazz/blues/funk fusion that is hard to categorize. Its a big band, too, with two drummers, a three piece horn section, two back up singers, bass, old school Hammond Organ keyboards and sometimes s two lead guitar set up that I haven’t seen since the early days of Fleetwood Mac. Susan Tedeschi’s vocals could be used to power a small city and Derek Trucks is the next true guitar hero. In fact, “virtuoso” is too mild a word to use for any of the musicians that were on stage last night.
At one point, the horns and vocals left the stage in the middle of a song. Trucks played to the keyboards and bass in what became an extended jam that was Dixie Dregs on meth—–until the keyboardist picked a flute up off the top of the organ and it became Herbie Mann on meth. Not since Push Push has such a talented guitar player combined with such a talented flutist.
Tedeschi noted the passing of Etta James and sang I’d Rather Be Blind as a tribute. Goose bumps, people, goosebumps. The encore featured a 60-70′s set led off with Susan singing Janis’ Try (more goose bumps), moved into some George Freakin’ Clinton, and ended with a rousing rendition of Sly Stone’s I Want To Take You Higher. The only band that could have competed would have been the Family Stone.
The bad news is that you’re going to have to wait for your next opportunity to see this band. Last night was the last date on their current tour.
Cruz is the superior choice. But perhaps I shouldn’t expand any further.
David Dewhurst is a Republican Establishment putz. Ted Cruz is a far better choice. My only question is why Huckabee, who ought to know better, endorsed Dewhurst.
Sarge,
You have my profound envy. . . . I’ve been listening to “Revelator” the Tedeschi/Trucks album for 3 months now. I didn’t know they were coming to town or I would have had tickets.
They make music the old fashioned way – a bunch of really talented people sit down and play the stuffing out of their instruments and God looks down and smiles.
It is obvious that they not only enjoy playing with each other, but that have lobvious respect for each other’s abilities. Not every group assembled for a common purpose can do that.
I’m not familiar with the personnel of the Trucks and Tedeschi bands before the musical and marital union, but it appears there was a melding of the two. I haven’t seen two drummers onstage since the .38 Special days. The bass player was the most animated I have even seen. He appeared to be constructed of rubber bands. The bass seemed to hang stationary in space as his body gyrated around it. The horn section is not just a couple of guys they hired, they are truly part and parcel of the band—-the music seems to be arranged not just with horns in mind, but those particular players. Sometimes its a bit cliche to showcase one or more member of the band in short solos, but in the case of this band there’s a real reason to showcase thier talents. Each member got multiple opportunites to shine in extended instrumental bits.
My favorite track on Revelator is Midnight in Harlem, and this live performance truly did surpass the studio version. Derek Trucks is truly one of the most superb guitar
playersartists walking the planet today. Let’s hope he stays out of helicopters and short hop charter air flights.The innanet is so wissin cool! I just highlighted Midnight in Harlem in Sarges post above, right click hit google and I got this. What an amazing world we live in today. 20 years ago such a thing was a dream.
I too confess that I’m not in favor of social release of tax returns. IMO David Brooks put it better.
Have you noticed that as democracy has become more open, cynicism has skyrocketed and the effectiveness of government has gone down the toilet? Bill Galston of the Brookings Institution has the best observation on this — that parts of government should be hidden for the same reason middle-aged people should wear clothes.
Uh oh ………
Some of those Roman Catholic types are trying to influence the election.
Maybe there is something to zombies.
He’s unable to say at this time how many elections he was talking about. So we can’t say of the 2,495,000 registered voters, whether this is .04% for one election or .0007% of two elections.
What we do know that approx 250,000 registered voters do not have state issued driver’s licences or IDs. I guess that’s what they call acceptable collateral damage.
#47 Shamaal:
10% of the registered voters do not have a state issued ID of one form or another??!!?? Really, I would say that is prima facie evidence of rampant voter fraud. 10% of the registered voters can’t cash a check or get on an airplane – MY BS-O-METER JUST GOT PEGGED OUT!
So Gingrich wins SC? (38 % exit polls).
#30 Bonecrusher, to be honest, I’ve not heard of that case, but the NRA is fighting this type of case, all over the country, all the time.
Gingrich gets 40% of married women……. HUMMM Interesting~
I’ve been skeptical of exit polling ever since the Al Gore “win” in Florida.
38% seems high to me.
That wasn’t supposed to be that high either.
I was familiar, but ambivalent about it. I’m not in favor of conceal carry below the age of 21, unless the individual is a veteran. But given the ruling, that the 2nd Amendment doesn’t apply outside the home, I’m going to follow it a lot more closely from now on.
Sarge, Since the last debate I figured that he would win but I didn’t know by how much, if the exit polls are THAT high it certainly LQQks good for him. Just sayin’
It’s the state’s number, they had to provide the data to the feds when they filed to change their law. But it gets better; when the MSM investigated, they discovered that states being huge bureaucracies, used stale numbers that could be explained away. Of the 250,000 in the pool
So they have 207,000 potential mail-in frauds frauds identified, while creating laws claiming to prevent walk in voter [fraud}. We won’t go into what kind of voter is likely to show up at a polling place instead of mailing it in.
Gingrich gets 40% of married women?!
Holy crap, I bet Slick Willie is jell-usssss!
Not being a Mormon or a Muslim, I assume he’s not actually married to them. They must be off the books.
Dang.
Just looked at Hot Air. They’re saying Newt wins, 38/29. If ture, that’s not just a win—its a total biotch slap drubbing, especially when you count Santorum and Paul’s votes in the mix.
The numbers here are indeed interesting.
Take a look at who won in the political orientation category, and in the Tea Party Oppose/Support categories. It does look like the abortion issue hurt Mittens, but didn’t really help Newt. Some folks will find it suprising that Evangelicals went so high for Newt.
Another one party stalwarts need to look at is the “If Romney wins the nomination”
category
CSI South Carolina ….
Let’s hope they have better luck than they did with finding out who sent out those emails claiming the Nigerian Minister of Finance was killed and left me 5 gazillion Nairas in a bank in Timbuktu (about a buck two-fifty in American dollars)
#59 sarge
Another interesting number is that 99% of the voters were white. While I’m leery about exit polls also, it’s difficult to lie about that. Not one Republican appealed to the black vote?
#59 Sarge, DANG is right! Thanks for the great link.
If you aren’t willing to make the effort to pick up a free ID so you can vote, cry me a river, baby.
So Romney goes from winning the first three primaries to winning only one?
I hate you, man.
Yep. And taking a drubbing in this last one.
He has hope in Florida. A relatively high number of abentee ballots have already been cast, many of them before the events of this past week. Should make for some interesting conversation at canasta games at the Dell Webb game room.
Make yourself ready for the “I swas for Newt all along.” postings.
Let me try and make you feel better.
She didn’t sing Angel from Montgomery.
But she did a version of B.J. Thomas’ Everybody’s Talking At Me that turned it into a totally different song.
And dude—-
You should have seen all the 50-something hippie chicks shakin that thang in the aisles.
Stop it!!
And here’s the thing: They tried to spin an 8 vote win in I-o-frikkin-wa into a major victory of monumental proportions, and then a follow up win that everybody knew was gonna happen because he’s lived in the frikkin state since pulling out of the last election into something “historic.”
You want historic? Fifteen points baby.
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I’m serious dude. It was like Woodstock with support hose and mom jeans.
FROM A DRUDGE LINK:
Who were the 1819 voters who voted for perry even though he withdrew from the race, absentee/early voters?
link to above
That would be Ms Harper on Wednesday at #77
Let me help you get started.
1,637 of 2,136 Precincts Reporting and the percentages above do not change: NEWT JUST B-SLAPPED THE ROMNEYRROID!!
Shammy, that was a really nice rendition of the song and it almost sounded llike Joe Pass on the guitar. It does not change the fact that the voter roles need to be purged completely and we start over, valid photo ID to register and vote. Throw the motor voter bill in the shizzle heap where it belongs. It was designed to promote voter fraud in the first place by the 2nd most dishonest occupant of the white house ever; surpassed only by the current one.
5/6 of the precincts have reported in and Newt wins by a landslide.
And it looks like the margin of victory is sufficient to get Newt all of the delegates.
He now leads Mittens by 5.
form my inbox:
I am blessed to have friends with warped senses of humor:>)
I think that after Fla, it will be Gingrich, Romney and Santorum, Luap NOr is so far behind. If he doesn’t do any better after Fla, he is toast and will not likely garner any more support. continuing to stay in may wind up costing him what credibility he has left.
#75 osteo crasher
Actually thanks to Shannon who initiated the topic. I had the hots for Julie since I was a lad. Another version of the song, without Tom Ewell. She had a lot of people pulling for her and great arrangements, but like Etta James, never seemed to reach critical mass. I think she’s more famous for a television drama she was in, then her singing. Trivia note: only song I know of that uses plebian as a lyric.
Regarding the voting fiasco, I think the danger of voter fraud from absentee balloting is demonstrably greater than motor voter. As the right of voting, in my mind, is somewhat sacred, I’m willing to put up with the undemonstrated threat of fraud rather than deny anyone their right to vote.
PURGE THE ROLLS AND START OVER! I agree that the right to vote is sacred and each and every fraudulent vote disenfranchises a legitimate vote and that is why the rolls need to be purged. If you can’t provide legitimate ID you are not a legitimate voter period! If your bogus number of 10% of the voters have no legitimate ID, then by definition they are illegitimate.
I couldn’t agree more.
All the infirm, non-driving old ladies in my circle of aquaintance feel the same way.
They all vote in every single election.
They manage to crawl on their bloody hands and knees for miles to maintain their valid voter registration. It’s an amazing sight.
I disagree.
Santorum js going to have to pull out. He has no money, and did not make a showing in SC that is likely to change that much. Paul will stay in until the end. He’s after as many delegates as he can get—even if its a handfull. He wants a say in the platform, and if things are close between Romney and Newt at the convention, he might be able to control things.
And then there’s this.
Might be far fetched, but the Paulistinians are well known for arcane poltical shenanigans, so who knows?
Rolls are purged as late as possible prior to each vote. The tax assessor sends out the registrations, each one that is returned is subject to removal. If you’re in the military or at school – whoops!
Last year, all I or anyone else needed to do was bring the card that was sent to my address to the voting place and vote. This year, that is insufficient, in addition to the card you must present an acceptable form of government ID, in addition to having registered and received your card. But, as pointed out, if you spend 3 hours in line, 15 miles from your house (if you live inside loop 610), the identification is “free”.
It is my belief that absentee voting is by far the greatest threat from fraud, but that’s a different type of voter.
#82 Shannon
Tell ya what there, Nancy.
Why don’t you and all the other Obama supporters make that voting thing an election issue? You know, make your case in front of all the people of this country—make sure its a subject in all the debates, get all the talking heads on the alphabet networks to talk about it on all the Sunday shows—maybe even get Oprah involved.
I bet it will do your credibility wonders.
I mean really—
You could tell them all how it makes sense for them to have to show a photo ID to buy spray paint, but none to vote.
Its a real winner I tall ya. A real winner.
She’s baaaaack ..……….
If I understand Sarah’s concept of backlash, then I guess Bill Clinton’s back in the running for appointment to the Supreme Court. Most Palin followers don’t know this, but he too was selectively hounded by the media for, ahem, a Newtonian discretion.
Thanks for weighing in sarge ….
It’s already an election issue with court cases and everything, try to keep up.
Folks are wondering why an issue that doesn’t exist require new laws. Well actually most people already know why it’s an issue.
BTW, if I had to show a card sent to my house to buy a can of spray paint, you might have a point, but I don’t and apparently neither do you.
One more knucklehead, who wishes he hadn’t wrote something
In an attempt to avoid a visit by the blog monkey, I won’t quote the rest of the piece; but he’s backtracking and apologizing already. It’s amazing to me [that people] who aren’t involved in these things on a personal level, believe what they hear on Faux News or the internet
Our friends at GM are tops in sales, although with Toyota’s tsunami problems it’s like winning the Super Bowl in an NFL strike year.
Less than two years after emerging from bankruptcy,General Motors Co.has regained the title of the world’s largest automaker.
No genius.
You have to show a card that you need to go to a government building and take a test to get. Even then if you haven’t bought a government approved insurance product you’re not gonna get it.
So yah, go ahead with that line of logic.
I have great faith in the American people. Especially those that care enough to bother to vote.
Give it a couple of years. If they give a damn, they’ll figure out how to comply with the new rule.
They’ve had a lot of practice complying with government regulation.
And if Harris County precincts have the budgeted monies to bring bus loads of little old ladies and men all the way out to Austin and Washington Counties to view the bluebonnets, shop and do other sight-seeIng, I bet they’ll figure out a way to get them a free voter ID card.
Starting to look real easy to get that card that proves who you are to vote.
American citizens who would not be willing to spend 3 hrs at the DMV in order to vote don’t deserve to vote. For gosh sake, that’s good for 6 yrs for a Texas drivers license, and presumably good for the rest of your life for a Voter Photo ID card. The 3 hrs is a sample size of ONE anyway. When I mentioned it to a friend, she said her renewal trip took 45 minutes.
Actually, it was perjury in a federal court deposition.
But yah, he did spank his wanker into his hankie while having phone sex with the fat chick he met at work.
Most powerful man on the planet at the time.
I see, one must prove themselves worthy of the honor. Spend some time, shell out some money, maybe pay a fee or a take a short quiz.
Sad
And surely Soros and taxpayer-funded ACORN derivatives will provide hundreds if not thousands of licensed street people to drive little old ladies to the DPS office for their IDs.
“Paid volunteers”, doncha know.
99% of the precincts in: 12 point victory.
I believe every Republican candidate since Reagan who won the SC Primary has gone on to win the nomination.
Late to the party dear Hamsters. Quite a confab going on here tonight, and it took a while to catch up all the way to the end with comment 89.
Have been laying low the last day or two recovering from a two-hour dental appointment for a root canal part deux on a three-root molar with all three involved. The infection appears to be licked and the diseased nerve tissues removed, borehole in the crown medicated and plugged, and now am waiting for all the jangled nerves on that side of my jaw from eyesocket to ear to chin to calm down. Wait a month to patch the entrance to the borehole in the crown, which fortunately held together. Can safely chew reasonably soft food on the opposite side for a few weeks. Situation is such that an occasional Tylenol is required to take care of any residutal discomfort. So far.
Therefore my disposition is such that I am in no mood to suffer fools gladly, kinda like Newt the other night.
Gypsy is begging to go for a walk. Fetch the leash and march.
G’night all.
Shammy, people are not being asked to do something they would not normally do for themselves anyway. There’s a very small percentage of people lacking a photo ID now, for cripes sake! And for those who don’t there are procedures to allow them to vote. All this whining and whimpering is BS. I mean, in Mexico they require photo ID. There’s a lot more people down there without vehicles and resources like “the poor” here in the U.S., and they manage.
I see, you’re man with the mental acuity to mistake one person’s personal opinion for actual law.
Sham:
Go pound sand you pin head. Voter fraud, including fraudulent absentee voting, is a huge problem that needs to be addressed. You bringing up the Jim Crow laws THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE BY YOUR BUDDIES THE DEMO-NAZIS, simply shows your lack of substance with this argument. If that is the best you have, then please just shut the wiss up!
without rampant voter fraud and 90+% of the black vote Ds lose every time. That is why they, the Ds, are so vocal and darned near unanimous in their objection to reasonable voter ID laws. They can’t win in a fair fight and they know it.
I’m just waiting for when Newt and Barry debate this one.
Sacred?
But you mentioned recently, shammie, that you’ve never grasped the purpose of prayer.
….Which makes me wonder what possible reference you have for the “sacred”.
Let’s see how the Nooostkie does in Fla. Ifn he replicates that same kind of victory there . . . . .?
It’s amazing to me that people believe what they hear from
Faux News or the internetthe PrOpObummagandist Streamed Media period.Shamall made a video y’all.
Hold me back.
hubba hubba
How’s this for thinking outside the box?
All those old ladies riding free Harris County Precinct sight-seeing buses could stop by the Brenham DPS before they go take the Blue Bell Creameries tour.
I’ve never had more than a five minute wait at that DPS office.
#110 WB
hussy
/I get to say it! I get to say it! whooop!
While all you people are arguing with our resident troll over how much effort it takes to get an ID to vote, a 14-year old Dutch girl shows us all that the effort required to get an ID doesn’t amount to a hill of beans in the grand scheme of things.
And she has stones you could long for only in your dreams.
#112 crazy aunt
I was being sarcastic.
Any facts, figures, notes on the back of envelopes or perhaps writings on men’s room walls to back that up?
I thought so
Actually for twenty years, they didn’t do it. Of course it’s merely a pinheaded opinion, shared by the courts and under review.
It was shaky when I wrote it, we’ll just have to go with my irrational faith on this one.
#112 TT
Not hussy, horndog — a new word I learned right here on this august forum.
#113 wagonburner
[But we'll always have Paris]
Earl Warren is dead.
113
Shammie would offer her a sushi dinner.
My apologies, if this was posted before. But these kinds of pairings have always fascinated me.
Shammy – you mean people have been getting photo IDs, such as licenses, for only 20 years?
No, obtaining and showing a photo ID to vote, in addition to your registration.
Voter registration cards were sufficient since I’ve been here.
Just got back from date attempt #2 to see Sherlock Holmes. This time we got to see it and it was fun.
My home page showed Gingrich winning South Carolina. A big congradulations to him.
Was the theatre still packed? I’d like to take Mrs. Shamaal next week.
Maybe they were sufficient, but what with all the moral decay we’ve seen over the past 2+ decades, it seems no longer to be the case.
Heck, Oklahoma driver licenses didn’t have pictures until around the 1970′s. Times change. We need to make sure that we have the same level of confidence in the identity of voters as we do of drivers.
Bonecrusher #35;
Close enough.
Ah, but my point was that photo IDs have been required and acquired for other purposes, so it shouldn’t be such a big deal to take one to vote. Heck, I’ve been doing that for years, anyway, since I drive there. Even my mother has an expired DL, and she hasn’t driven in years.
Lol. How true.
Hugh Hewitt: Newt Channeled Andrew Breitbart To Win SC
Hewitt also correctly “advises” Romney & Santorum to adopt the same message of Gingrich: attack the media and declare Obama the failure he is.
How do poor people cash thier welfare checksand food stamps without photo ID?
Silly Sarge, only rich people whip out their IDs to buy food with their food stamps card.
Asking Romney and Santorum to attack the media with the same passion and skill as Newt does is like asking Rosanne Barr to sing La Traviatia
Yet another reason cats are worse than useless.
rollin out homeward bound this mornin – Yall have a great Sunday!
Our accountant sent out her usual pre-filing letter.
Included was this information.
The Bush Tax Cuts expiring at the end of this year will–among other impacts–have the following effects:
Capital Gains:
Current: 15% New: 23.8% Increase: 58.7%
Dividends (36% bracket):
Current: 15%. New: 39.8%. Increase: 165.3%
I sure hope the helpless, ID-lacking little old ladies don’t have to take any long term capital gains soon.
A $7,000.00 tax all of the sudden becomes an $11,100 tax.
Boy, that will really help the economy.
#125 wagonburner
I won’t feed you long, but this needs a response. We won’t discuss landslide Lyndon, Tamany Hall or the Chicago Way; but I think it’s reasonably easy to establish that morality as indicated by results in crime or teen age pregnancies has not increased. At least no more than that typical of class or generation carping at others.
Living overseas, my Florida license didn’t have one either. That was back when drivers’ licenses were a license to drive. Then 1984 came along. I’m just not at the stage of the rest of folks where I’m willing to trade some liberty for some security.
If she wishes to vote, get Granny Tammy up to you nearest government registration office. Unless she has a CCH license of course.
No id required in Texas, just a pin number.
#137
Tell me how having frikken photo ID, which you need to buy some products at the grocery store or get on an airplane or cash a check, violates anybodies liberties.
The libs love to scream about how having to have a photo ID is going to disenfranchise huge swath of the eligible population, yet never do they mention how this happens; I wonder why; must be some trolling BS.
#136 Shannon
Yeah, who could see 2012 coming way back in 2002.
Interesting exit poll info in sarge’s #59.
Folks got priorities, someone has to pay for the spending.
The issue is not having photo ID, it’s the new law that one has to have it to vote.
Clearly not screaming loud enough, this is the seminal study that libertarians use.
And of course there are the state filings showing numbers of registered voters, number of IDs, etc.
And then there are newspapers.
Perhaps I should make it a little more obvious: If the person does not have valid photo ID, they really can’t be considered to be informed and involved (I question whether they are even literate) because they can’t participate in a reasonable fashion in this society today. The literacy tests were not such a bad thing, because if you can’t read, you really don’t know what/who you are voting for. Was this reasonable provision abused so that Ds could deny blacks the right to vote, of course. Do you think they could get away with that today, he!! wissin no. That some county registrars offices show as many as 10% of the registered voters as having no photo ID, is glaring evidence of the need to purge the rolls and start over.
#136 Shannon
Aw, those evil rich people can afford it. They don’t deserve to get richer off their investments anyway. Even if they did already pay taxes on that income before they invested it.
G’Morning All
On the voter ID.
I have lived through poll tax, must show ID, register in person, no poll tax and no ID, and automatic registration.
It’s funny to me that none of the oppressive requirements have ever stopped me from voting, but then I may take my country and Constitution more seriously than others. I do find it despicable that Mickey Mouse, Chewbaca and others can get a registration and actually vote. To this day I still proudly place my driver’s license and voter’s registration on the table when I sign in.
BTW, Shannon, my bank (wells Fargo) does require an ID to cash a check.
Never count a professional politician out:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/south-carolina-primary-newt-gingrich-defeat-mitt-romney/story?id=15411865#.TxwEg_mN0fd
What New Zealand sheep herders do for fun. (Get your mind out of the gutter).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2FX9rviEhw&sns=fb
Captain Schettino’s lawyer has revealed the defense, based on none other than Sir Winston Churchill.
Winston Churchill remarks on Italian cruise ships: “There are three things I like about Italian ships. First, their cuisine, which is unsurpassed. Second, their service, which is quite superb. And then — in time of emergency — there is none of this nonsense about women and children first.”
#147
The Baa-Studs, now that right there was funny.
#100
Do not mess with the lady with a toothache.
Joe Paterno has passed away.
#100/150
We’re going out now. Couldn’t do it last night because the Shamaalina was on my lap watching bunnies and listening to Julie London, Ella and Amy Winehouse.
Joe Paterno Dead at 85.
Hopefully he can explain himself with satisfaction. He was a good man I believe.
Spring vacation activity sponsored by Occupy Eugene, OR.
ROAD TRIP!
#147 OletimerLin, that was great, from the comments; “this should be on ewetube”
Mornin’ Gang
Another scorned woman?
A kinky photo of Gingrich has emerged. Right now its on some unknown guy’s Facebook page, so not everybody may be able to see it, but it might see wider distribution. Not sure what kind of damge it would do as it involves something we already know about Newt.
More mundane, this is a pic of Newt leaving his campaign HQ in Charlotte after thanking his volunteers and staff.
#147 OTL
Shepherd’s foosball?
#156 Tim, from your link:
Yeh, that is sort of a problem for Obammy.
#157, 158 Sarge
If you have an FB account, you can see it. Looks like they are both enjoying that spanking.
Some purty good photo-shopping ya found, soldier. Squawkster, take note. Whatcha got for us along these lines?
The system works!
Off to build stuff for Petrobras to drill for oil to sell to the Chinese.
One, utterly fantastic, incredibly prescient, and completely instructive quote:
Best advice for politicians—-or anybody who wishes to influence opinion—-that I have ever read in my life.
Seven things we learned in South Carolina.
#2 is rather interesting.
The business of Communion wafers.
#165 Shannon
Interesting article. I remember attending the Kerrville Catholic Church, and receiving a very small square of dark brown bread that was the Eucharist. I looked in the bulletin, and they have a”bread baking ministry”. I think it’s cool that the parishioners make their own communion bread.
The government closes the Volt fires investigation, pooh-pooing the danger. Shocker!
Yes, and I can’t remember the last time a gas-fired vehicle fire was in the news. I think some SUV had an electrical problem that caused a garage to catch fire years ago. That’s the last time I remember hearing about one.
Depends upon the statistics. If you sell 3 cars, and the next year only 2 are sold, you can claim you only lost the sale of one car. Alternatively, you can say you lost 1/3 of your sales. However, given that the President has personally peed on this Volt and claimed it as his baby, I’ll bet the official line is “the sales have not been affected much”.
The money quote here? I believe it’s the phrase “IN THE MOVIES”. Hell-LOW-oh!! IN THE WISSIN’ MOVIES, DUDE!
/looking for the tape, head’s about to explode
I think the MSDNC spitter’s constant flow of drool has finally choked off all the oxygen to his tiny tingly brain.
Trying to book hotel rooms for Lovely’s wedding. Any feedback on which is better to use? I’m trying to get a room as cheaply as possible, but close to A&M (near Lovely’s hotel). I’m thinking Priceline or Hotwire. Any ideas?
Now this is nice.
#169 crazy aunt
Most of those online sites have policies that are very inflexible ie you can’t cancel or resched.
Ask them for the IBM or Halliburton rate. They won’t check to see if you actually work there.
Headcrusher came over for a visit:>) I Gave him a haircut, a burr, as per his request. Now I am cooking wild rice and thick ribeye steaks for dinner, life is real good.
The residents of Dog S*** Village in Guizhou province in China get some prosperous and happy news.
I wouldn’t mind the old name. It’s kinda cool.
Like Rooster Puke, Texas.
#173 Pyro
The link is munged. Here it is honed down to what will work:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4074605/Dog-S-Village-residents-finally-bag-new-name-news-Nickname-was-adopted-by-cops-and-officials-and-even-placed-on-maps.html
Indonesian girl becomes Soylent Green for crocodiles.
Un toro en fuego seeks and finds vengeance.
Strange death trifecta is now in play.
IF I had half a brain, I’d quit this job ’cause its too wissin dangerous.
#176;
¡La vinganza!
Bonecrusher;
Ummm, you really want to say, “if I had a brain” in that context?
#172;
When am I invited? Yummy!!!!!
Sarge #131;
When did debating skills become your priority número uno in who to vote for?
Not sure I see anywhere in that blockquoted section that says anything about what my priority numero uno, dos, or quatro would be.
Merely an accurate analogy for comparison of skill level.
169 TT
I attended conferences and continuing education at the B/CS Hilton for a number of years. I assume it is still the biggest dump in the entire worldwide Hilton chain.
166 TT
Several years ago we switched to volunteer-made bread.
I am not a fan of the change from wafers. Crumbs everywhere.
Something of the sacred is lost for me.
We ended up getting rooms at the La Quinta. It’s not too far from the Hilton. Aggie Beau didn’t think we’d be able to beat the $109/night room rate that they got for the block of rooms they set aside. With the early reservations and my AAA discount, I got two rooms at $53 each. That way, Hubby and I have our privacy, and Handsome will have his. It’s not that much more than getting one room at the Hilton. I was trying to get a suite, but the suite they provided didn’t allow for any real privacy.
And at least Handsome will be able to get some sleep. Hubby’s snoring can rattle windows a mile away. I’m gonne hafta get some real earplugs so I can be as rested as possible for The Big Day.
It’s getting real dang close. We’re starting to plan bridal showers and such.
Of course, we shouldn’t discount the ability of our candidate to clearly express and expound upon Conservative values and make comparison and contrast with those of our opponent. Obama is a man of great rhetorical skill, he is not unintelligent, and he has a very competent political staff.
The indispensable Mark Steyn makes a bit of a comparison of abilities here.
I mean seriously, Darren;
If Romney can’t adequately anticipate and prepare a simple verbal response to Bain or his tax returns, what kind of performance can we expect of the man when it comes to Iran and the Salafist menace growing in the “Arab Spring” states?
#176 Pyro
From your link:
I’d be OK if the entire country of Spain just quietly sank into the Antlantic and became coral reef substrate.
But then, so much of the sacred has been lost in the ELCA Lutheran church. We usually attend Saturday evening (somewhat more traditional) service but had to opt for the dreary Sunday 10:30 contemporary service today.
I have no idea where they get the liturgy from, but it is awful. Even the Creed has been replaced with some strange, feel-good affirmation of faith.
I just about walked out when the modern Gospel reading had Jesus telling the fishermen he would make them “fish for people”, rather than fishers of men.
Use of the revisonist gender neutral scripture upsets me to no end.
The whole thing depresses me terribly.
I will be making a change some day.
What could possibly go wrong?
Fantastic. Solyndra on steroids near the unction of tectonic plates.
Ain’t that green energy sumpin?
Lets spend another kajillion dollars.
In other news …..
No, really.
I’m not making this up.
Giants win 20 to 17
Yep, and he got more than half of the evangelical vote, too.
I’m telling ya, with the new moral compass guiding the Republican Party, things are looking good for a Supreme Court nomination for Bill Clinton.
Yeah, I know it’s Faux News, but Wing Nut Daily is no longer amusing.
You’re right. It does sound remarkably like the defence made for Bill Clinton. We managed to survive as a country back then, there’s no reason to think we won’t if Newt gets elected.
Maybe that marraige thing isn’t as big a negative as some people would want us to beleive.
Sarge;
Bare with me…
Sarge, have you forgotten your evolution?
November 12:
Darren #83 responding to the blockquote by Squawkbox saying, “Romney is the man that lost to the man that lost to Obama.”:
Sarge #102:
(Cain, by the way, is a guy who lost to Romney who lost to McCain, who lost to Obama (who lost to no one in large part due to dirty politics))
Here you praised Newt’s debating skills compared to Romney (which I’ve always have agreed is superior)
November 13, 2011:
#107 Squawk clarifies his comment on Romney.
Darren #131:
Sarge #133
You then linked an excellent debate response by New @8;30t.
Sarge #137:
Sarge @#s 138 & 139:
and
So far you slam Romney (and rightly so) on the issues.
Darren #141 posted video of Romneys response on auto bailouts as an example of excellent debate/interview responses Romney has made.
Sarge #147:
Sucha stupid hyperbolic analogy caused Darren to cease dialogung with you that night. But here’s your very next line in bold and the line after that one:
As for Romneycare and gun bans, I’ve show that Gingrich has supported healthmandates and gun control on the federal level. Legislation he’s supported have been ruled unconstitutonal, altered to make thenm unconstitutional while retaining their essence and have allowed the federal government to crack down harder on gun vendors. as anadvocate of gun rights, you should not be happy with these decisions by Newt but you’ve only apologized for him.
Now, return to the first clause of the bold blockquote: “I’m not voting for any candidate based on thier debating skills”. Wonderful. Nor am I nor anyone else here. But here’s what you said on Jan. 12, 2012 (bold mine):
Right there is where you indicated that your primer prioridad s tha Newt has excellent debating skills, which he does, the best on stage and the prime reason he surged in South Carolina. His outstanding stage performance + a massive Evangelical vote push against Romney put newt clearly over the top in that state.
Now, when did debating skills become your number one priority to decide whom to vote for?
Sarge #186;
He’s responded abundantly well to the Bain charges. He’s responded to Newt’s charges indirectly referenciong him and somethig youve only apologized on behalf of Newt as well as to the charges in general. If you don’t believe me, just return toDarren’s play by play posts in SC’s last debate.
Someone’s got way too much time on a Sunday night.
Say goodnight, Gracie.
Romney: Yeah, I’ll release my tax returns on Tuesday; Update: Video added
The pressure is on.
200 ?
Oh no, avert your gaze, everyone!
Darren;
Nowhere in any of that, especially that last part, do I enumerate my priority. You spent a whole lot of time going back week after week to find where I praised Newt’s obvious skill, but that in no way says that I hold that as my primary consideration. If you scroll up a bit, you’ll see where I praised the skill of Derek Trucks, but that doesn’t mean that I think skill with a guitar is my main priority for a candidate for President.
But if you want my primary attribute for the Republican nominee, here it is: He cannot be Mitt Romney. Once we get beyond that point, everything else is negotiable. Romney is a very weak candidate and no where near the “electable” god his supporters say he is.
Here’s a bit of advice:
If you’re going to advocate for or against a candidate, limit your comments to the candidate, not on the supposed weaknesses of the supporters of your candidate’s opponent (unless its Ron Paul). It makes you candidate look indefensible—-but that’s what I said about Romney a week or so ago: The worst thing about him is that he is difficult to defend.
Now please, I asked a very piointed question about your candidate in #186 above.
Do you have an answer for that?
Let me make it short here, Darren:
I’m not the issue here. Newt Gringrich, Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum, and Ron Paul are.
Go read that Steyn piece, then get back with me. Keep in mind, the one candidate Steyn has said should not be the nominee is Newt.
The pressure had been on for two weeks.
And if you think he handled it in a well prepared manner, listen to the audience reaction here.
Your defense is, again, weak.
“Your candidate sucks just as much as mine does.”
Not gonna make it, dude. Not gonna make it.
mharper #201;
Sarge;
If “is what we need” not placing Newt’s debating skills at number one riority to vote for Newt, then is it ,second, third, fourth? You like gingrich primarily on the issues? There are food issues reasons to like Gingrich, so, wha are they numerically? What will he do as president as you see it? Personally, I like Santorum the best when it’s on te issues; but that’s just me.
So, even if McCain ran again, you’d vote for him over Romney? Why not Santorum?
I agree.
But, seriously, I just want some consistancy. This is not a “my guy sucks just as much as yours”., as much as it is the reasons you give to not like Romney can also apply to Gingrich and one reason why it is worse of Gingrich is because his proposaitions applied at te federal level, Romney’s never has. Furthermore, I don’t see gingrich as following the Constitution as he absuoltely did not in the past on bot hthe inhenrent or evolved powers ofthe Constitution; but he will follow his big idea for the nation. In the past this has included, gun control, population control, helath mandates, and Romneycare. I’m looking for consistancy and something solid as to why you like Gingrich. Is it because he is winnable? If so, it is primarily because of his debating skills; not his record; and that’s what you said we should not vote for; but for the issues.
I’d be glad to read Steyn. What piece is it?
On some issues it is hard to defend romney. I’ve made no secretto my own oppositions to Romney but you’ve made no reason at all to oppose Gingrich; even after attacking capitalism, it has been your argument that gingrich has done us a favor and it looks bad on Romney for being a cpaitalist. now, if I read steyn, please re-read my play by play and get back to me.
He did prepare for a verbal attack on his time at Bain; just didn’t anticipate that attack coming from…Newt Gingrich. Who knew the conservative alternative to Romney would attack Romney on Romneys capitalism? Mitt Romney responds to Bain attacks . That was on the 13th.
As for the tax returns, why is this an issue? It’s not for me and it should not be for Romney but, nonetheless, he has agreed to release his returns for 2010. What do you expect to find inthem? More capitalism?
As for the whacky jihadists, Romney’s proposed to beating them all up since 2008. His proposed dealings upon ihadism has always been a strong point, not a conservative concern. So why are you concerned?
I love Jell-O chocolate pudding.
Good night all.
Hi again, let’s see how accurate this turns out to be:
I’ll say, 100%.
CURL: The truly dismal state of the union
OK, gooooooood night.