Friday 20,000 SAMs Missing Open Comments

This should scare the ever-loving bejeebers out of us all.

While we’ve been busy bombing the cr@p out of Libya, approximately 20,000 (that’s right, twenty thousand) man-portable heat-seeking surface to air missiles have gone missing.

The White House announced today it planned to expand a program to secure and destroy Libya’s huge stockpile of dangerous surface-to-air missiles, following an ABC News report that large numbers of them continue to be stolen from unguarded military warehouses.

There go the horses! Someone shut the barn door! But don’t worry we have our best guy on it!

Currently the U.S. State Department has one official on the ground in Libya, as well as five contractors who specialize in “explosive ordinance disposal”, all working with the rebel Transitional National Council to find the looted missiles, White House spokesperson Jay Carney told reporters. [emph. mine]

The system worked!

Though Libya had an estimated 20,000 man-portable surface-to-air missiles before the popular uprising began in February, Assistant Secretary of State Andrew Shapiro told ABC News today the government does not have a clear picture of how many missiles they’re trying to track down.

“We’re making great progress and we expect in the coming days and weeks we will have a much greater picture of how many are missing,” Shapiro said. [emph. mine]

We don’t even have a clue of how many are missing, except in the grossest of estimates.

This has been known about for weeks now, but it’s unclear how much has actually been done to stop or at least ameliorate the problem.

Peter Bouckaert of Human Rights Watch first warned about the problem after a trip to Libya six months ago. He took pictures of pickup truckloads of the missiles being carted off during another trip just a few weeks ago.

“I myself could have removed several hundred if I wanted to, and people can literally drive up with pickup trucks or even 18 wheelers and take away whatever they want,” said Bouckaert, HRW’s emergencies director. “Every time I arrive at one of these weapons facilities, the first thing we notice going missing is the surface-to-air missiles.” [emph. mine]

It’s not clear exactly what missiles are missing, but they are likely to be similar to (or actually are) the Russian-built 9K38 Igla (NATO designation SA-18 Grouse).

They’re not very big, but can really do a number on a soft target like a civilian airliner. Due to their size, they are relatively easy to smuggle into a country and once over the border would be almost impossible to find.

20,000 of these out in the wild is a nightmare scenario. It would only take two or three actual uses to bring civil aviation to a standstill anywhere even remotely near where they were used. If the bad guys were to then publish pictures of an arsenal of tens of them, civil aviation would be effectively ended.

Meanwhile, TSA is spending its time asking us our name to make sure we memorized our driver licenses, confiscating our bottles of soda or water, making sure we have nothing but lint in our pockets, and taking 5 minutes to x-ray a suitcase.

Sounds like the goal of all that would be to reduce the number of secondary explosions when an airliner is shot down while taking off from LAX, Dulles, Frankfurt, Sheremetyevo, Newark, Tokyo, Hong Kong, Atlanta, Houston, JFK, Paris, Chicago…

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93 thoughts on “Friday 20,000 SAMs Missing Open Comments

  1. More people will be killed in automobile accidents than will be killed in shot down airliners or any other scary events TSA can concoct. When are we going to accept the fact that there are risks in life that our government and our military cannot mitigate. When your number is up, it’s up.

    If our government was serious about public safety over all else, the automobile would have to be the first to go since it is the number one killer.

  2. 2nd row, inside!

    You right wing nutters just ain’t gonna give up on the whole terrists, WMD thing are ya. That is soooooo 2000’s.

  3. #4 Hambone, how can that be legal?! Also what kind of doctor does it take to mutilate a kid or an adult for that matter. We’re living in a SICK world.

  4. #4 From the article; The couple faced intense criticism from friends and family as a result, Ms Moreno told MailOnline.

    ‘Everybody was angry with us. “How could you be doing this? You might be ruining his whole life!” Might be?!?!

  5. Friday humor from the inbox:


    After I retired, my wife insisted that I accompany her on her trips to Target.

    Unfortunately, like most men, I found shopping boring and preferred to get in and get out. Equally unfortunate, my wife is like most women – she loves to browse.

    Yesterday my dear wife received the following letter from the local Target:

    Dear Mrs. Harris,

    Over the past six months, your husband has caused quite a commotion in our store. We cannot tolerate this behavior and have been forced to ban both of you from the store. Our complaints against your husband, Mr. Harris, are listed below and are documented by our video surveillance cameras:

    1. June 15: He took 24 boxes of condoms and randomly put them in other people’s carts when they weren’t looking.

    2. July 2: Set all the alarm clocks in Housewares to go off at 5-minute

    3. July 7: He made a trail of tomato juice on the floor leading to the women’s restroom.

    4. July 19: Walked up to an employee and told her in an official voice, ‘Code 3 in Housewares. Get on it right away’. This caused the employee to leave her assigned station and receive a reprimand from her Supervisor that in turn resulted with a union grievance, causing management to lose time and costing the company money.

    5. August 4: Went to the Service Desk and tried to put a bag of M&Ms on layaway.

    6. August 14: Moved a ‘CAUTION – WET FLOOR’ sign to a carpeted area.

    7. August 15: Set up a tent in the camping department and told the children shoppers he’d invite them in if they would bring pillows and blankets from the bedding department to which twenty children obliged.

    8. August 23: When a clerk asked if they could help him he began crying and screamed, ‘Why can’t you people just leave me alone?’ EMTs were called.

    9.. September 4: Looked right into the security camera and used it as a mirror while he picked his nose.

    10. September 10: While handling guns in the hunting department, he asked the clerk where the antidepressants were.

    11. October 3: Darted around the store suspiciously while loudly humming the ‘ Mission Impossible’ theme..

    12. October 6: In the auto department, he practiced his ‘Madonna look’ by using different sizes of funnels.

    13. October 18: Hid in a clothing rack and when people browsed through, yelled ‘PICK ME! PICK ME!’

    14. October 21: When an announcement came over the loud speaker, he assumed a fetal position and screamed ‘OH NO! IT’S THOSE VOICES AGAIN!’

    And last, but not least:

    15. October 23: Went into a fitting room, shut the door, waited awhile, then yelled very loudly, ‘Hey! There’s no toilet paper in here.’ One of the clerks passed out.

    You retired guys have all the fun!

  6. #11 Whiskers: It is a good start, HOWEVER,
    1) it still leaves the irs in place
    2) it still leaves the govts nose in our business. IT IS NONE OF THE GOVT’S BUSINESS HOW MUCH MONEY AN INDIVIDUAL MAKES!!!
    3) Corporate income tax is passed down to the consumer, so the consumer will pay it.
    4) 9% of income AND 9% sales tax equals a higher effective rate than what most people pay now. Add to that the pass through of the corp tax and the whole thing is simply too high.

    The Neil Bortz FAIR TAX plan is a far superior approach.
    1) Repeal the 16th amendment
    2) Rip out the IRS by its roots
    3) Replace with a Natl retail sales tax on everything – NEVER TO EXCEED 15%
    4) Send everybody a “prebate” to cover the tax on reasonable subsistence consumables.

  7. G’Morning all

    #10 Bonecrusher
    Funny, but Target doesn’t sell guns or ammo. Speaking of Target:
    This article is not much in itself, except, do you think she would go for a photo op at WalMart?

    Michelle Obama shops at Washington-area Target

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Attention Target shoppers: You could have been standing in line with Michelle Obama.

    The first lady, hard to recognize in a baseball cap and sunglasses, shopped Thursday at a Target store in Alexandria, Va., just outside Washington.

    Casually dressed Secret Service agents arrived about a half-hour before Mrs. Obama, who walked in through the main entrance with an assistant. She spent 30 to 40 minutes shopping, pushing her own cart. She apparently was recognized only by the cashier who rang up her purchases.

    Since coming to the White House, Mrs. Obama has lamented missing out on what she calls “normal stuff,” like Target runs.

    She isn’t the first first lady to try to go out unrecognized. Hillary Rodham Clinton went for walks wearing a baseball cap and sunglasses, too.

  8. #4 Hammy

    And now step 2 proceeds.

    After demise of ‘don’t ask,’ activists call for end to military ban on transgenders
    By Rowan Scarborough
    The Washington Times

    With homosexuals now able to serve openly in the military, the gay rights movement’s next battleground is to persuade the Obama administration to end the armed forces’ ban on “transgenders,” a group that includes transsexuals and cross-dressers.

    “Our position is that the military should re-examine the policy, the medical regulations, so as to allow open service for transgender people,” said Vincent Paolo Villano, spokesman for the 6,000-member Center for Transgender Equality.

  9. #11 Katfish

    Like Boney, I like Neil Bortz’s plan.

    I have ALWAYS been in favor of a national sales tax. My estimate would be 10%, excluding only food and medicine.

  10. Maybe OBH needs to go back and bow again.

    Remember this from January of this year?

    Title: Hussein Obama bows to Syrian Islamo terror dictator Assad, resumes full diplomatic relations
    Source: Arutz Sheva
    URL Source:
    Published: Jan 29, 2011

    From yesrerday:

    Pro-Assad crowd stones U.S. envoy’s convoy in Syria

    By Khaled Yacoub Oweis

    AMMAN | Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:53pm EDT

    (Reuters) – Supporters of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad hurled rocks and tomatoes at U.S. ambassador Robert Ford’s convoy as he visited an opposition figure in Damascus on Thursday and Syria accused Washington of inciting violence and meddling in its affairs.

  11. The religion of peace.

    Iranian Pastor Sentenced to Death: Nadarkhani Refuses to Convert

    By Daniel D. Tovrov | September 29, 2011 10:35 AM EDT

    Iranian Pastor Youcef Nadarkhani, who is facing the death penalty, again refused to convert to Islam to save his life.

    Nadarkhani was arrested in 2009 for the crime of apostasy because he allegedly abandoned Islam for Christianity. As a pastor, Iranian clerics believe that Nadarkhani was preaching in order to convert Muslims.

    Before his last hearing Wednesday, Nadarkhani had been given three previous chances to repent, and all three times he has refused. After his final refusal Wednesday, no verdict has been announced, but many expect that he could be put to death as soon as Friday.

  12. While on the religion of peace,

    Course Instructs Journalists to Take Note That Jihad ‘Not a Leading Cause of Death’
    By Judson Berger
    Published September 29, 2011

    A new online journalism course on Islam appears to downplay the threat posed by global jihad groups, suggesting reporters keep the death toll from Islamic terrorism in “context” by comparing that toll to the number of people killed every year by malaria, HIV/AIDS and other factors.

    “Jihad is not a leading cause of death in the world,” the online course cautions studying journalists.

    While that is technically true, researchers at the Culture and Media Institute who examined the online program took exception to that and numerous other claims made in the Poynter News University course.

    Dan Gainor, vice president at the institute, said the course is sweeping these threats “under the rug,” while watering down the section on jihad with inappropriate comparisons.

    “Infectious disease, we have government structures to prevent that, and that’s great … in radical Islam we have not even one organization but several organizations that are constantly seeking to kill Americans and others too,” he said. “It seems like journalists should not be involved in trying to downplay that.”

  13. #18 OTL: That Iranian Pastor defines what it means to suffer for the cause of Messiah. He is under imminent death penalty because he refuses to deny Messiah. If he is murdered for his faith, he is a true martyr and will receive the robe of Righteousness in the Heavenly realm; he will always have a place of high honor.

  14. This screaming wiss-wad just doesn’t get it.

    “I mean, there are a lot of things we can do,” Obama said. “The way I think about it is, you know, this is a great, great country that had gotten a little soft and, you know, we didn’t have that same competitive edge that we needed over the last couple of decades. We need to get back on track.”

    Hey ZERO! Ifn you and your types would untie our hands and feet of all the absurd regulations, restrictions, limitations, punitive taxations and unending frivolous lawsuits we would absolutely be able to out compete any body else on the planet.

  15. This has to get the prize for one of the worst written sentences in journalistic history:

    The Benjamin Banneker Academic High School where Obama spoke about the ethics he was taught in 8th grade at his private college preparatory school is a public school.

  16. Gee, he’s dressed as a woman AND driving a car. Wonder how they spotted him? (soon to be a Darwin Award winner)

    Gaddafi regime spokesman captured as he fled Sirte ‘dressed as a woman’
    By Lewis Smith
    Friday, 30 September 2011

    Moussa Ibrahim, mouthpiece for Muammar Gaddafi, has been captured by rebel forces while driving close to the city of Sirte, according to military commanders.

  17. 22 Boney

    That’s a perfectly good sentence. You see, If you read the first phrase and then—no, wait a minute–you take the middle phrase and —wait–you take the third and—–nevermind.


  18. You think?

    Fmr. Clinton Adviser: ‘Very Possible’ Obama Will Bow Out of Presidential Race – For Now
    By Grant M. Dahl
    September 29, 2011

    In an interview with conservative radio icon Sean Hannity, former President Clinton adviser and campaign manager Dick Morris stated that, after speaking with a Democratic strategist, he thinks it is “very possible” that President Obama might acquiesce to requests from the Democratic leadership in Congress and bow out of the 2012 race, leaving the door open for him to return sometime in the future.

    “I asked a top Democratic strategist the other day and he thought that it was possible that, in January, Harry Reid comes to Obama and says, ‘Look you cost us control of the House last year, you’re going to cost us control of the Senate this year. For the good of the party you have to step aside’” said Morris.

    “And, then, (Obama) pulls a Lyndon Johnson, he says ‘I’m fighting to solve the recession, and problem is because of partisanship and my re-election people reject everything I say because of partisanship, so I’m going to not run for president and focus my full time attention on solving this recession’ and then go out popular,” Morris added.

  19. Translation: “He’s dead, hide the evidence and call then call 911.”

    Conrad Murray trial jurors hear security guard’s 911 call

    Alvarez, who carried the title of head of logistics, said that when he arrived at the star’s bedroom, Murray was making a haphazard attempt at CPR.
    Jackson was on a soft surface — his mattress — and Murray was using one hand and doing so only intermittently, he said.
    At one point, he said, the cardiologist asked, “Does anybody know CPR?”
    Alvarez said Murray told him the singer had “a bad reaction” and needed to get to a hospital.
    But he followed those statements with instructions to gather up medical vials and pill bottles from the singer’s bedside, saying, “Here, put these in a bag.”
    The doctor then asked him to remove an IV bag containing “a milky white substance” — a description consistent with the surgical anesthetic propofol.

    Only then did Murray ask him to call 911, he said.,0,6409038.story

  20. The Supreme Court agreed Monday to rule whether ObamaCare is constitutional.

    If you want free health care in America just go to the airport. You can get free X-rays, a free breast exam, and if you mention al-Qaeda, you also get a free colonoscopy.

  21. Tiger Woods recruited got a new PGA tour caddie for next month’s President’s Cup. It took some convincing to get him

    They get paid ten percent of a player’s winnings Tiger’s last two caddies are on food stamps.

  22. From my inbox:

    When a car skidded on wet pavement and struck a telephone pole, several bystanders ran over to help the driver. A woman was the first to reach the victim, but a man rushed in and pushed her aside.

    “Step aside, lady,” he barked. ‘I’ve taken a course in first-aid!’

    The woman watched for a few minutes, then tapped him on the shoulder.

    “Pardon me,” she said. “But when you get to the part about calling a doctor, I’m right here.”

  23. DID you know that PMS was known about in Biblical times?

    In Matthew It says: “…and Mary rode Joseph’s ass all the way to

    Gotta go. Gonna be kinda sad, even though Don has been in Hospice and couldn’t sit at the table, I could go over and see him afterward. After 24 years of hanging out together, this will be the first time there is no “plan B”.

    He is now free from all the pain and in a much better place, but I’ll still miss him.

  24. #25 OletimerLin, I’ve heard this before and while I think Dick Morris is pretty savy about politics, I just don’t buy it. Obama is so arrogant that I’m sure deep down he thinks that he’ll be reelected in the end, after all, he is the “Chosen One”. Also the bowing out for the good of the country might work for a patriot but not for him because it’s all about HIM, not the country or the peasants. Just my opinion, could be wrong.

  25. With homosexuals now able to serve openly in the military, the gay rights movement’s next battleground is to persuade the Obama administration to end the armed forces’ ban on “transgenders,” a group that includes transsexuals and cross-dressers.

    In related news, DoD has issued a new Specification for Equipment to approved prospective contractors and vendors for the following:

    Brassiere, Mans, Cotton, Heavily Padded, OD in Color

  26. I guess I am way behind the times; I always thought a military tranny was that thing right behind the engine on a truck.

  27. Ifn the foul “O” wanted to destroy the US military, the fastest way to do that is to further feminize it, which is what allowing “the happy people” to serve openly does. To allow the thoroughly confused to “serve” openly furthers the slide down the chute to oblivion.
    The one thing that must never change in the military is clear focus; the whole LBGT? thing is the anti clear focus.

  28. #13 Bones

    Send everybody a “prebate” to cover the tax on reasonable subsistence consumables.

    Lots I like about the Fair Tax but this prebate stuff would take a new dept of bureaucrats & paper pushers to administer. Yuck. I prefer a no-sales-tax and/or lower-sales-tax on essentials approach. Basic food, basic clothing, shelter, part of the utilities.

  29. #43 M42: I could live with that easily. The prebate thing is just to pacify the progressives claim that the tax is regressive.
    Simply apply the NRStax to the things that now have a sales tax and not to those that do not, that will minimize paperwork and compliance costs and complexity.

  30. Isn’t a trannie that thing that has a stick coming out of it that you move with your hands? Oh, wait, never mind.

  31. I always thought a military tranny was that thing right behind the engine on a truck.

    If one is driving the truck…

  32. Isn’t one of the lines uttered by all Marine DI’s something like “Alright ladies, drop and give me twenty”?

    It’ll just be more true now.

  33. Basic Tranning:

    Courses will consist of:

    “One Mile Run Like a Girl”

    “Obstetrics Course”

    “Basic Marksgirlship”

    “Bayonet Heels Practice”

    “Sexual Orienteering”

  34. How long before the “sexually confused” trannies insist that the military pay for their torque converter swap out?

  35. #45 bone

    Somebody making $50 million a year playing baseball, his taxes won’t change. Make $50 million a year appearing on television, his income won’t change. But, if they make a lot of money and pay a very low tax rate, like me, it would be changed by a minimum tax that would only bring them up to what other people pay.

    Why not them? I thought most of them were huge libs who like all the social programs that are bankrupting us. If they like them so much, they can pay for them.

  36. Climatologist Says Texas Drought Could Last Until 2020.

    State climatologist John Nielsen-Gammon tells the Austin American-Statesman says water planning is often based on standards set by the previous record drought of the 1950s, which lasted nearly 10 years. Nielsen-Gammon, who also is a Texas A&M professor of atmospheric sciences, says the present drought could be significantly longer-lasting than what has been planned for.


  37. The aftermath of the barrage was horrendous. One man was heard shouting “Get this man a medic, he’s been hit in the legs!” Another was screaming “Get me a beautician, you should see my nails!”

  38. There once was a jarhead named Billy,
    Who thought the whole gay thing so silly,
    Until came the day,
    One came his way,
    And offered to fully wax up his willy.

    There once was a sailor named Dex,
    Who was slightly confused about sex,
    ‘Til a sailor came on,
    Her name was Don,
    Now Dex follows a new set of specs.

  39. “These BDU’s are kinda baggy. Do you have another cut? Maybe a nice belt I can use to cinch them up a little?”

  40. Hey, I finally figured out how to bypass my company’s security ban on embedded links. See if #70 works for you…

  41. OK;

    Its prolly time we should stop being mean to the Transgender troops. I’m sure that in 50 years, our children will have new Heroines to look up to. Soon there will be names like

    Georgia Patton

    Wilhelmina Wallace


    Audrey Murphy

  42. This guy really gives me the creeps.

    Van Jones: “We are going to build a progressive counterbalance to the tea party. Eighty percent of Americans agree with everything that you say on this show, but we have no voice. We know that jobs are more important, and this phony, made-up deficit stuff they talk about. We know that people who have done well in America should do well by America and start paying America back in the form of more fair taxes.

    He is right on the bubble of inciting a riot and other criminal activity. He needs to go far away and visit his heros like Stalin, Lenin and Mao.

  43. #78 – bone
    There may well be an American Fall soon, but it won’t be what Van Jones or any of his bolshie buddies think it will be. It’ll be more of a collapse and he’ll find out that there isn’t enough of anything to support his visions.

  44. Jones et al. are the type of people who are the first to be lined up against the wall when the revolution comes.

  45. #81 Pyro: I don’t think it will be quite that organized. Ifn you take the time to find a wall, he might escape and we just can’t take that chance, shoot on sight is a far superior option. Treat him just like the allies treated the SS whenever they were caught.

  46. Gotta love this city council candidate’s sense of humor with this headline in his press release:
    You are here: Home / Harris County / Press Release: Parker Afraid of Dick
    Press Release: Parker Afraid of Dick

  47. Both fossils and Native American tools have turned up at Lake Whitney. You have to go back at least 20 years since anyone has seen the formerly remote underwater caverns that have been exposed by the historic drought. For some visitors it has been exciting and new. But for others it has been a lesson in criminal law.

    It’s against Texas and federal regulations to remove Native American artifacts from archaeological sites. But WFAA reports burial sites from ancient times have been disturbed.

    The 955-acre park is located near the ruins of Towash Village, an early Texas settlement named for the chief of Hainai Indians, who moved into the region in 1934.

    So far, law enforcement has arrested 30 people for committing the crimes against history. Each was fined thousands of dollars and placed on probation.

    (Sung to The Wall)

    Hey, Texans, leave them bones alone!
    It’s just another drought on the books.

    Texas Drought Turns Weekend Warriors Into Looters of Artifacts, Fossils

  48. Ron Paul calls US killing of American-born al-Qaida cleric in Yemen an ‘assassination’

    I’m ok with that.

    Dude’s an enemy combatant in a war zone. As such, he’s a legitimate target.

    Whack him.

  49. No more nightly body counts from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars because the prOpObamaganda media would never mention the W word while their Demigod is in office.–Wars? What wars?

    No more war protests from the faithful Obumma sheeple because an Obumma sponsored war is a good war

    20,000 SAMs missing in a war Obumma started–Who cares?

    Fast and furious gun running operation that proved deadly to at least one border patrol agent–No problem.

    Millions in loans comes up missing in the Solyndra deal and now we find out Obumma gave another 737 million to a firm linked to Nazty Pelozi–Big deal!!

    Black Panther voter intimidation back in 08–Yawn!

    Phony birth certificate and all other of Obumma’s records sealed–Damn birthers are crazy.

    20 years in racist pastor’s church—Obumma was actually never there, he was golfing.

    And on and on it goes–Lies, corruption and more lies from the Obumma regime–But when you have the prOpObamaganda media in your corner, no bit of factual reporting on Obumma’s corruption or lies shall pass through their lips because they said..

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