Thursday Union-Busting Open Comments

The Republican State Senators in Wisconsin finally grew weary of the Democrats’ stalling and running off and hiding. They stripped the non-fiscal items from the bill they were considering and from which the Democrats were hiding. They then came up with a quick compromise with the Republican House, unified the bills, and passed legislation stripping the public sector unions of their ability to collectively bargain over anything other than wages up to increases due to CPI changes.

“The Senate Democrats have had three weeks to debate this bill and were offered repeated opportunities to come home, which they refused,” Walker said. “In order to move the state forward, I applaud the Legislature’s action today to stand up to the status quo and take a step in the right direction to balance the budget and reform government.”

Reactions from the Democrat leadership was somewhat less mature.

“In 30 minutes, 18 state Senators undid 50 years of civil rights in Wisconsin. Their disrespect for the people of Wisconsin and their rights is an outrage that will never be forgotten,” said Democratic Senate Minority Leader Mark Miller. “Tonight, 18 Senate Republicans conspired to take government away from the people.”

By “the people”, he means “public sector union members”.

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136 Responses to Thursday Union-Busting Open Comments

  1. 1 Bonecrusher says:

    FIRSTAMUNDO!

  2. 2 Bonecrusher says:

    It is about wissin time that someone with an R associated with their name showed some cajones! This slap in the face of the Union whore D’s is LONG OVERDUE! It pails in comparison to what happened in DC under the reign of the Wicked Witch of the West, Nanzi Pelousi, but at least it is a start. Chris Cristie is doing very well in New Jersey; perhaps this is the season when the R’s will start acting like robust men instead of the little girly toads we have been forced to endure.

  3. 3 Bonecrusher says:

    This is not a good sign.

    Bill Gross, who runs the world’s biggest bond fund at Pacific Investment Management Co., eliminated government-related debt from his flagship fund last month as the U.S. projected record budget deficits.

    Pimco’s $237 billion Total Return Fund last held zero government-related debt in January 2009. Gross had cut the holdings to 12 percent of assets in January, according to the Newport Beach, California-based company’s website. The fund’s net cash-and-equivalent position surged from 5 percent to 23 percent in February, the highest since May 2008.

    h/t Bloomberg, Drudge

  4. 4 Bonecrusher says:

    IT’S ABOUT DARNED TIME! Saudi Arabia is moving towards banning child bride marriages.

    In Saudi Arabia, young girls are often married off by their parents to much older men. According to a local social worker interviewed by Saudi daily Al-Riyadh, some 3,000 Saudi girls below the age of 13 were married off to men at least 25 years their senior. But Fawzia Al-Bakr, a sociologist at King Saud University in Riyadh, said this was likely to change soon.

    “I’m sure a new law will pass very soon,” Al-Bakr told The Media Line. “There are many discussions about the matter in Saudi Arabia, with more and more people understanding the damage child marriages cause society.”

    So things are changing in Saudi Arabia or . . . . . . maybe not:

    But the transition from words to actions is slow in the kingdom. In April 2009, Justice Minister Muhammad Al-Eissa announced that his ministry would regulate child marriages, but nothing has happened since. Eman Al-Nafjan, a Riyadh-based blogger and social activist, said she was skeptical about the prospects of a new law.

    “The Justice Ministry won’t act on its own,” Al-Nafjan told The Media Line. “Legislation must come from the king himself. But based on previous discussions, this is not likely to happen.”

    For the first time in Saudi history, the parliament in January defined childhood as applying to citizens under the age of 18, in preparation for a new child protection law. The matter of child marriages, however, was intentionally excluded from the legislation under the pretext that it was a “touchy issue,”, Al-Riyadh reported. Eman Al-Nafjan was annoyed by the distinction legislators made between “a child” with regards to abuse, and “a minor” with regards to marriage.

    Well, at least it is a start, sort of.

    h/t Jpost.com

  5. 5 Hamous says:

    Minutes later, the Senate took up the bill and passed it without debate.

    “Shame on you!” protesters cried from the viewing gallery.

    Outside the Senate chambers, protesters chanted “Shame!” “This is not democracy!”

    The Fleebaggers abdicated their responsibilities to the democratic process and now they want to cry foul? You can’t help but laugh at them. They’re like the man who murders his parents then begs the court for leniency on account of he’s an orphan.

  6. 6 Super Dave says:

    My Bonecrusher is the early bird today. :wink:
    OK, We have a RINO in Wisconsin;

    Republican Sen. Dale Schultz cast the lone no vote.

    “I voted my conscience which I feel reflects the core beliefs of the majority of voters who sent me here to represent them,” Schultz said in a statement.

    I don’t know if he comes up in 2012, but when he does I’m betting the Tea Party will take him out.
    Mornin’ Gang

  7. 7 Super Dave says:

    FWIW; It should be illegal for ANY public employee to belong to a union.

  8. 8 Super Dave says:

    Dang talk about a high tech “peeping tom”; Dade Cops Waiting To Get Crime Fighting Drone Airborne

    Police admit the MAV, if flown low enough, has the ability to look into people’s home, but that is not its intended purpose.

    “If this thing is deployed, it’s only going to be used in situations where we already have an ongoing police scene,” said Cohen. “They are going to know we are there because we will have tactical teams, SRT teams, we’re going to have a perimeter, it’s going to be secure.”

  9. 10 Big45Iron says:

    Wait until redistricting this year. You’ll see Fleebaggers by the hundreds from state legislatures. I don’t believe liberals realized they were crushed in November. Maybe a second dose in November, 2012 will help them realize their time is over.

  10. 11 Bonecrusher says:

    #8 SuperDave:

    “If this thing is deployed, it’s only going to be used in situations where we already have an ongoing police scene,” said Cohen. “They are going to know we are there because we will have tactical teams, SRT teams, we’re going to have a perimeter, it’s going to be secure.”

    Yeah, right.
    Some others that come to mind:
    -I will still respect you in the morning
    -the check is in the mail
    - Social Security payments are voluntary and all proceeds go into a lockbox
    -Government spends tax dollars responsibly
    -this won’t hurt a bit
    -I can quit any time I want
    -I’m from the Government and I’m here to help

    Feel free to add to the list

  11. 12 Bonecrusher says:

    #10 Big 45:
    I would suggest to the R’s that just before the redistricting legislation is to be brought up, and make sure that it is a surprise, lock the doors and put guards on all the D’s so that they can not escape. I would also suggest that gps trackers be clandestinely placed on their vehicles so we know when they are fleeing. Finally I suggest that if (more likely when) they flee that we take them back by force, if necessary to the capital and make them do their jobs.

  12. 13 Texpat says:

    Michael Knox Beran, contributor at the Manhattan Institute and the subject of a couple of my columns at Lone Star Times, wrote a great piece for the Christian Science Monitor yesterday featuring venerated Leftist and literary critic, Lionel Trilling.

    In his 1947 novel “The Middle of the Journey,” Trilling probes this hidden impulse in his portrayal of Gifford Maxim, a character modeled on his Columbia schoolmate and legendary Soviet spy-turned-anti-Communist Whittaker Chambers. “And in the most secret heart of every intellectual … there lies hidden … the hope of power, the desire to bring his ideas to reality by imposing them on his fellow man,” Maxim says. This hope tempts the progressive to embrace coercive policies in the name of social equity. “The more we talk of welfare, the crueler we become,” Maxim says. “How can we possibly be guilty when we have in mind the welfare of others, and of so many others?”

    Trilling was far more perceptive than most of his fellow travelers in those days and certainly more so than any on the Left today.

  13. 14 OletimerLin says:

    G’Morning all

    Dang it, you stole my thunder! I was going to make my first post on Wisconsin.

    Middle son “Arrrgh” went through his cornea transplant superbly. Thanks for the kneemail. He will go back this afternoon to have the medicated bandage removed and he can start wearing his pirate patch. The only restrictions are no lifting, bending below his waistline or sudden head movements for 2 weeks. He is free to drive in 2 days. It will be 3 to 6 months before all the tissues and muscles reattach and heal from the surgery. I thank God for all the great Doctor’s and medical innovations that have come about in just my lifetime.

  14. 15 OletimerLin says:

    #11 Bonecrusher

    Feel free to add to the list

    Being rodeo season:

    I won this belt buckle bull riding.

  15. 16 OletimerLin says:

    I’m a bonafide senior. While it may not be fun to burden us with their mis-handling of our money (I’m talking to both parties here), I’m willing to give up something to get our country on track. God help their souls if they start screwing up again after I sacrifice for them. I’ll shout from the rooftops to recall every one of them and make the 2010 election look like a kindergarten party.

    This is a long article but should be read by all. The smell of fear is dripping from the Dem’s statements. If they don’t get with the program, it will be the stench of (political) death emanating from them. Scare tactics don’t work on this old f@rt.

    Seniors told to fear GOP spending cuts
    By Jason Millman – 03/09/11 08:44 PM ET

    The Obama administration escalated a fight with Republicans over spending on Wednesday, warning that millions of seniors could see their Medicare payments blocked under the House GOP plan.

    Seniors could also see Social Security payments delayed if the measure backed by the GOP cutting another $57 billion in spending this year is enacted, the administration said.

    The administration’s attempts to portray the House budget as harmful to seniors — a powerful voting bloc — represent the White House’s most aggressive step yet to try to gain the upper hand in a battle with House Republicans that for a second time in two months threatens to lead to a government shutdown.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/148573-seniors-are-told-to-fear-gops-cuts

  16. 17 El Gordo says:

    I’m bringing this one over from last night.

    Seems that Dear Leader has been having some difficulty drumming up commencement speaking gigs this spring, so he held a little “jack ‘em up” press conference today to try to generate a few more applications (to go with the 14 he has already received after extending the deadline for 2 more weeks). Iowahawk was there:

    http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2011/03/liquor-store-run.html

  17. 18 Tedtam says:

    #13 Texpat

    “The more we talk of welfare, the crueler we become,”

    Again, I urge everyone to read “With Folded Hands” short story by Jack Williamson. It’s science fiction, if you can handle that.

  18. 19 Tedtam says:

    I think every state legislature should put in place a rule that if enough legislators miss work so that quorums cannot be met, that those legislators be given 48 hours to return to work or their positions will be filled with proxies for specific legislation by the governor of that state. When the legislator(s) return, they can take their elected positions back.

    I don’t know if any Republicans have vacated their posts en masse before, but this should be good for both sides.

  19. 20 OletimerLin says:

    #7 Super Dav3
    FWIW; It should be illegal for ANY public employee to belong to a union.

    President Franklin D. Roosevelt, the patron saint of the American labor movement, was a man of strong character.
    For example, although he had a lock on labor’s vote, he expressed caution about public sector unions. In a little-known letter he wrote to the president of the National Federation of Federal Employees in 1937, Roosevelt reasoned:

    “… Meticulous attention should be paid to the special relationships and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the government. All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations … The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for … officials … to bind the employer … The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives …

    “Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of government employees. Upon employees in the federal service rests the obligation to serve the whole people … This obligation is paramount … A strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent … to prevent or obstruct … Government … Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government … is unthinkable and intolerable.”

  20. 21 Tedtam says:

    From Drudge: Sarkozy Fills Leadership Void on Libya

    It’s bad when our president gets upstaged by the French. Again.

  21. 23 Texpat says:

    Famed blogger John Hayward, known more widely as Doctor Zero of HotAir, has suffered the death of his father.

    He writes a beautiful, lyrical tribute to him, to all fathers, mothers and families here.

  22. 24 Big45Iron says:

    Priority for handling of flee baggers:

    1. Turn off any government credit cards.
    2. Shut off their paycheck.
    3. Shut off power to their offices.
    4. Shut off their office phones and government cell phones.
    5. Shut off the paychecks for their staff. If they’re not at work, they don’t need staff.
    6. Ensure money not paid during absences is not reimbursed later.
    7. Change their locks. They vacated their offices.
    8. Take away all their parking spaces…rep and staff.

    I think that should cover it ….. at least for the first day.

  23. 25 Tedtam says:

    Well, they said it was a threat, but never explained how? Can’t we be told now, since the equipment is gone?

    Another reason to not pee on a plane.

  24. 27 OletimerLin says:

    #22 Tedtam

    Both of them should get a Silver Star.

  25. 28 OletimerLin says:

    Another reason to not pee on a plane.

    I always use those paper bags in the seatback pocket.

  26. 29 Texpat says:

    RE: Tedtam’s #22

    The fallen British soldier and his dog’s ashes will pass through Wooton Bassett, a small village near the military base where all casualties are delivered.

    The moving story of Wooton Bassett is here.

  27. 30 mharper42 says:

    #5 Hams
    I see Hammy has a new gravatar. Is it another monkey? A monkey wearing a costume? A big hat and a skirt?

  28. 31 Sarge says:

    Another reason to not pee on a plane.

    First the tell ya not to pee on the rails in the subway.

    Now this.

    Sheesh.

  29. 32 mharper42 says:

    #10 Big45Iron

    Hi & welcome back, I haven’t seen you post here in quite a while. I recall you had a health issue so I hope you are recovered now.

  30. 33 Hamous says:

    I see Hammy has a new gravatar. Is it another monkey? A monkey wearing a costume? A big hat and a skirt?

    It’s my Lenten Gravatar. There’s an evil monkey for all occasions.

  31. 34 mharper42 says:

    #33 Hammy

    Woo hoo, a big hat and a skirt, indeed.

  32. 35 Tedtam says:

    #33 Hammy

    It looks like il Papa is having a bad day.

  33. 36 wagonburner says:

    #28 otl
    dude.

  34. 37 wagonburner says:

    I’ll have to photoshop a bishop’s mitre onto hypnotoad.

  35. 38 Sarge says:

    Its an evil monk

  36. 39 texanadian says:

    Morning all, the American Thinker has a thought provoking article on dear leader.

    http://comments.americanthinker.com/read/42323/783114.html

  37. 40 Big45Iron says:

    mharper – I’m not as in touch with Houston area and Texas issues, so I don’t post as much. However, I’m raising h—l with liberals here in Hawaii. It’s a much bigger task.

  38. 41 Adee says:

    Good morning Hamsters. Winter returned overnight, 39 at 6 and still chilly in the shade at 11.
    Tree pollen stirred up well and broadcast hither and yon by the breeze. Decongestant taken, relief is on the way.

    The insurrection at and in the Wisconsin Capitol overnight and today proves the barbarians got past the gates–again. Mob control by the Capitol Police, Madison Police, Dane County Sheriff, and even the State Police has been sadly ineffective, either for lack of sufficient numbers (State Police) or for sympathy with the barbarians (the rest of the outfits). Maybe the Governor should ask to borrow some Texas Rangers for a spell….

    Latest: At least some law enforcement branch(s) is/are carrying out squatters who are blocking entrance to the Assembly chamber, according to the 11 am KSEV radio news.

    While the Lege is on a roll, it should pass concealed carry and incorporate the Castle Doctrine in state law. That plus voter ID would really blow the minds of the progressives. :)

  39. 42 Big45Iron says:

    Adee, just a bit of education. We’re no longer using the word “progressives” since that word doesn’t properly describe them. For future use, please substitute the more accurate moniker: REPRESSIVES.

  40. 43 Bonecrusher says:

    #39 Texakanukian:
    2nd to last paragraph of the article you linkied to:

    By Deconstructing Obama page by page — and piece by piece — Cashill brings the reader to understand that in 2008 “Barak Obama” wasn’t a candidate but a carefully created myth. The leftist mainstream media bought that myth, which is why they blew off Cashill and his overwhelming amount of evidence that so much about Obama was fraudulent. That’s why Obama’s close relationships with Ayers and with the vicious America-hater Jeremiah Wright were ignored by the mainstream media during the campaign, and also that telling comment by Michelle about her husband’s candidacy being the first time she’d ever been proud of our country. After all, if any part of the myth turned out to be false, Obama’s candidacy would have collapsed. That didn’t happen, of course, and it’s depressing to realize that when given the choice between a myth and a genuine war hero — American voters chose the myth.

    h/t American Thinker

    I think this just about nails it.

  41. 44 wagonburner says:

    I thought the whole deal behind the legalization of weed was that it could be taxed?

  42. 45 Super Dave says:

    #39 texanadian, Great Article!

  43. 46 Sarge says:

    44 wagonburner says:
    March 10, 2011 at 11:35 am
    I thought the whole deal behind the legalization of weed was that it could be taxed?

    We’ll be hearing about that.

    As soon as chior practice is over.

    Its running a bit long——-

  44. 47 texanadian says:

    There are definitely some good questions here.

    5. Is every leader of a public employee or teachers’ union an idiot?

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/09/ten-impolite-questions/#ixzz1GDilCg59

    yep

  45. 48 texanadian says:

    The Queen speaks

    I’m reminded of someone, a proverb, now quoted by Sheila Jackson Lee, cleaning a dirty kitchen, you can’t clean it with dirty water,” Jackson Lee, a member of the committee, said at the beginning of her five-minute rant.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/10/video-sheila-jackson-lees-rant-at-terrorism-committee-hearing/#ixzz1GDk9FF3I

    She is outraged :)

  46. 50 Shannon says:

    Contest over. Hammie has the best avatar ever.
    Though it looks like it might be on your desk at work.
    If so, be forewarned, should Bobo go to work there, he will file a grievance.

  47. 51 Sarge says:

    2 0

    26 Tedtam says:
    March 10, 2011 at 8:56 am
    Yeah, but those dadblasted Teabaggers are the violent ones!

    It gets worse.

    The following is the unedited email:

    Please put your things in order because you will be killed and your familes
    will also be killed due to your actions in the last 8 weeks. Please explain
    to them that this is because if we get rid of you and your families then it
    will save the rights of 300,000 people and also be able to close the deficit
    that you have created. I hope you have a good time in hell. Read below for
    more information on possible scenarios in which you will die.

    WE want to make this perfectly clear. Because of your actions today and in
    the past couple of weeks I and the group of people that are working with me
    have decided that we’ve had enough. We feel that you and the people that
    support the dictator have to die. We have tried many other ways of dealing
    with your corruption but you have taken things too far and we will not stand
    for it any longer. So, this is how it’s going to happen: I as well as many
    others know where you and your family live, it’s a matter of public records.
    We have all planned to assult you by arriving at your house and putting a
    nice little bullet in your head. However, we decided that we wouldn’t leave
    it there. We also have decided that this may not be enough to send the
    message to you since you are so “high” on Koch and have decided that you are
    now going to single handedly make this a dictatorship instead of a
    demorcratic process. So we have also built several bombs that we have placed
    in various locations around the areas in which we know that you frequent.
    This includes, your house, your car, the state capitol, and well I won’t
    tell you all of them because that’s just no fun. Since we know that you are
    not smart enough to figure out why this is happening to you we have decided
    to make it perfectly clear to you. If you and your goonies feel that it’s
    necessary to strip the rights of 300,000 people and ruin their lives, making
    them unable to feed, clothe, and provide the necessities to their families
    and themselves then We Will “get rid of” (in which I mean kill) you. Please
    understand that this does not include the heroic Rep. Senator that risked
    everything to go aganist what you and your goonies wanted him to do. We feel
    that it’s worth our lives to do this, because we would be saving the lives
    of 300,000 people. Please make your peace with God as soon as possible and
    say goodbye to your loved ones we will not wait any longer. YOU WILL DIE!!!!
    Reply Reply to all Forward

  48. 52 Sarge says:

    If so, be forewarned, should Bobo go to work there, he will file a grievance.

    As soon as choir practice is over.

  49. 53 Big45Iron says:

    From Sarge’s #51

    familes
    assult
    demorcratic
    aganist

    PLUS

    Milwaukee Democrat Peggy West says Arizona is not a border state.

    Great job Wisconsin teachers!!!

  50. 54 Sarge says:

    And it gets even worse.

    Senate Republicans were harried by swarming crowds. “We tried to get out of the building after the vote, because they were rushing the chamber, and we were escorted by security through a tunnel system to another building. But, after being tipped off by a Democrat, they mobbed the exit at that building, and were literally trying to break the windows of the cars we were in as we were driving away,” Republican senator Randy Hopper tells NRO. Such tactics, he sighs, were hardly unexpected. “I got a phone call yesterday saying that we should be executed. I’ve had messages saying that they want to beat me with a billy club.”

    You know.

    Because that’s the way Democracy should work.

  51. 55 wagonburner says:
    Senate Republicans were harried by swarming crowds. “We tried to get out of the building after the vote, because they were rushing the chamber, and we were escorted by security through a tunnel system to another building. But, after being tipped off by a Democrat, they mobbed the exit at that building, and were literally trying to break the windows of the cars we were in as we were driving away,” Republican senator Randy Hopper tells NRO. Such tactics, he sighs, were hardly unexpected. “I got a phone call yesterday saying that we should be executed. I’ve had messages saying that they want to beat me with a billy club.”

    You know.

    Because that’s the way Democracy should work.

    And those Tea Partiers are such violent people.

  52. 56 Tedtam says:

    LIfe is certainly harder when the help doesn’t come in.

    Pregnancy is no excuse.

    ;)

  53. 57 Tedtam says:

    #47

    My favorite is:

    6. Why is it that whenever anyone plays the “race card,” they always say more about their own prejudices than about the prejudices of the people they’re attacking?

  54. 58 Sarge says:

    Pregnancy is no excuse.

    But choir practice turns out to be a pretty good one.

  55. 59 mharper42 says:

    #43 Bones

    given the choice between a myth and a genuine war hero — American voters chose the myth.

    I voted for McLame, of course, but he was SUCH a poor candidate. Stinkin’ RINO in fact.

  56. 60 mharper42 says:

    #46

    As soon as chior (sic) practice is over.

    “Milk and cookies” wink wink

  57. 61 Bonecrusher says:

    #59 M: I too voted for Mcswino the rino because he was so much better a choice than the foul “O”. It kind of reminds me when Edwin Edwards was running against the klansman David Duke for Gov of Louisiana. . . . . . . there were bumper stickers that read ‘vote for the crook, its the right thing to do’.

  58. 62 Bonecrusher says:

    #51 Sarge: I certainly hope that the email was forwarded with all headers, etc to the FBI. It is a felony to threaten someone’s life and to threaten to use bombs; I think that is called a terroristic threat.
    Who wants to give me odds that the foul “O” justice dept will “get right on it”?

  59. 63 mharper42 says:

    #40 Big45Iron

    raising h—l with liberals here in Hawaii

    At least you don’t have “Shirley” Jackson-Lee and Quanell the 10th to contend with out there…

  60. 64 mharper42 says:

    #44 Pyro

    whole deal behind the legalization of weed

    Bob hasn’t posted here today, but he saw your link and posted there:

    Legalize it completely for any adult to buy. Get the doctors out of the loop.

    Sounds to me like Bob doesn’t see it as medicine after all.

  61. 65 wagonburner says:

    Homeboy shoulda waited until his haircut was finished.

    Either that, or he’s going for a very novel fashion statement.

  62. 66 Big45Iron says:

    mharper, Democrats control all but nine seats in Hawaii’s 76 member legislature the most politically monolithic state government. It got so bad the other day one of our volcanos collapsed and threw up.

  63. 67 Sarge says:

    Scott Walker is a freakin genius.

    The Unions say that they are going to have 200,000 people show up in Madison this weekend.

    Do you know how much sales, restaurant, and lodging tax revenue that’s going to bring into Wisconsin?

    Genius, I tell ya.

    Genius.

  64. 68 wagonburner says:

    The unions are calling for a general strike tomorrow. Could get even interestinger.

  65. 69 Tedtam says:

    You mean they’re not going to work again tomorrow?
    How’s that a problem?

  66. 70 Sarge says:

    Bob hasn’t posted here today, but he saw your link and posted there:

    Ask him how choir practice is going.

  67. 71 Tedtam says:

    I just got through using my new electric WeedEater. The purple vetch threatening to climb in my back windows ain’t so threaten’ng anymo’.

    It seems most of my garden plants are still vertical and greenish in color.

    I gotta get my thrills somewhere.

  68. 72 Sarge says:

    69 Tedtam says:
    March 10, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    You mean they’re not going to work again tomorrow?
    How’s that a problem?

    I thought it was mean ol Republicans that shut things down.

    How are the poor people going to get their welfare checks?

  69. 73 Bonecrusher says:

    #68, 69: 200,000 people to show up for a general strike?? The beer joints, likka sto’s and greasy spoons better get ready cause biz is gonna be great.

  70. 74 Tedtam says:

    #65 Wagon

    That reminds me of the haircut I got last Friday. I’ve spent over a year growing my hair out, probably because I keep forgetting how much work my long hair is. It’s naturally curly, so when it gets cut, it draws up A LOT. On a regular, straight haired head, cutting one inch is cutting about inch. Cut one inch on me and I could lose up to 3″ as the lost weight on the hair length makes itself known. But the curls usually hide mediocre cuts, which is handy.

    The woman I tried on Friday (a new place had taken the place of my usual hair shop) was Asian. I don’t know how many Asians have really curly hair, but I’m guessing not too many. This woman was hope-LESS. She kept cutting and trying to comb my hair down. I kept telling her it wouldn’t stay down, it has a life of its own, to no avail. Lovely was watching in horror. I finally said “Okay! Okay! It’s good! We’re done! Just let pay and get out of here!”

    Imagine a Brillo pad cut into abstract shapes. Kind of like Homeboy, except I restrained myself from stabbing anyone. It was tempting, I must admit.

    Lovely had to try to reclaim a reasonable cut out of the disaster. God bless her. Next time, I bring a scarf to cover my embarrassment, just in case.

  71. 75 texanadian says:

    in nine months the maternity wards will be booming as well. ;)

  72. 76 Tedtam says:

    #67 Sarge

    Scott Walker is a freakin genius.

    The Unions say that they are going to have 200,000 people show up in Madison this weekend.

    Do you know how much sales, restaurant, and lodging tax revenue that’s going to bring into Wisconsin?

    Genius, I tell ya.

    To be offset by the costs of repairs to building, overtime pay for cops, possible guard activation, removal of graffiti and trash, broken store windows, loss of business revenue when customers can’t get through gridlock to work or shopping…you get the idea.

  73. 77 Big45Iron says:

    What would really be funny is if all the businesses, who pay those taxes, all closed. No food, no water, no bathrooms. Store owners would have to sit inside though with firearms to prevent vandalism.

  74. 79 bob42 says:

    #52/#58 Sarge, give me a break.

    As soon as choir practice is over.
    —-
    But choir practice turns out to be a pretty good one.

    Have you no idea how time consuming trying to “eliminate civilization” can be?

    Fortunately I’m not alone in that effort. Here’s a list of a few others that are (according to the pandering liar Newt) are hell bent on eliminating civilization.

    Ya might want to google dominionism or simply read the platform of the Republican party of Texas to satisfy your other curiosities (or not, I don’t care.) But don’t take Newt’s word for anything. He is a liar, and nothing you said yesterday contradicted my conclusion in that regard.

    Using my love of singing as a troll technique is pretty low, btw.

  75. 80 Bonecrusher says:

    I messed up the linkie thingie/block quote thingie in my #78 and I don’t know how to fixit, dammit!!

  76. 81 Sarge says:

    Using my love of singing as a troll technique is pretty low, btw.

    Just more of my delusional ranting I suppose.

  77. 82 bob42 says:

    #64 M42

    Sounds to me like Bob doesn’t see it as medicine after all.

    I’ve never been shy of expressing my opinion that it should be legal, regulated to more effectively control underage access, and taxed. Cannabis is less harmful than alcohol, and less addictive than tobacco.

    In conservative authoritarian states such as Texas, where about 70,000 people are arrested annually, most for simple possession of small quantities, legalization is out of the question. So far two bills in two lege sessions that would simply “allow” medical need as a defense to a criminal possession charge have died in committee, and a third will probably meet the same fate, as will a bill that would make simple possession a Class C misdemeanor and save millions each year, and allow cops to fight real crime more of the time.

    As far as medical benefit is concerned, I’ve been acquainted with a few people that have used the plant for medical reasons and found it to be benificial. Peer reviewed research would be better, but since the federal government makes that very hard to do, anecdotals are the best I can offer.

    I know a Viet-Nam veteran who is less than 10 years my elder, but suffers with advanced arthritis. He works when he can, but subsists mainly on disability and the charity of others. He’s very wary about becoming addicted to prescription pain meds. Over the years I’ve set up a couple of hand me down PCs for him. His house always smells like a rope factory on fire. He says it helps him, but maybe he’s just a stoner. I don’t know and I don’t care. He harms no one.

    15+ Years ago I worked with a very sharp computer programmer that never went out with the party crowd. Recently, a common friend that I’ve kept up with asked me to help him with her yard work before we watched the Sunday games. This surprised me, because she’d always been very athletic and enjoyed gardening and yard work. I was shocked to find that she was in a wheel chair because of MS. Her house smelled like an Amsterdam coffee shop. She said it helps, and I believe her.

    I still miss my brother in law that was diagnosed with stage four pancreatic cancer. The worst thing about stage four cancers is that there is no stage five. The nausea from the disease along with the chemo was problematic for him to the point that he couldn’t maintain the treatment schedule. His sister asked me about it, and I did not hesitate to become a “criminal” to try and help him.

    What would you do?

  78. 83 wagonburner says:

    Bill Gates is no longer the richest man in the world.

    Bill Gates didn’t lose his title as the world’s richest man last year; he gave it away by plowing billions into his charitable foundation

  79. 84 Sarge says:

    Golly;

    Bobby.

    I thought you wanted to tell us all the laws that domionists have passed in Western countries that set us on the road to establishing a large and powerful government to impose their beliefs on everyone via force of law, and mixing God with government.

    You said all we had to do was wait until choir practice was over.

    Now you want to talk about pot smoking.

    What happened?

  80. 85 bob42 says:

    #84 Sarge, you are wrong yet again. You demanded that I give such distractive examples after you completely failed to demonstrate that your good buddy Newt The Liar Gingrich was in any way at all telling the truth (to a selected religious audience) when he plainly stated as a fact, that atheists and secularists wanted to destroy civilization, and compared them to radical Islamist. He lied. And he did it for selfish political gain.

    I called him the opportunistic professional (washed up) politician and liar that he is. You disagreed, and completely failed to make a case for his lies. You failed yesterday, you failed today, and will fail tomorrow.

    The man is a liar. And you can not prove me wrong there.

  81. 86 Sarge says:

    #84 Sarge, you are wrong yet again.

    Dang.

    I guess I misinterpreted this exchange:

    98 Sarge says:
    March 9, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    snip

    Can you point us all to any laws domionists have passed in Western countries that set us on the road to establishing a large and powerful government to impose their beliefs on everyone via force of law, and mixing God with government?

    102 bob42 says:
    March 9, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    snip

    #98 Yes, I can. And I will. But that will have to wait until tomorrow. It’s time for pre choir practice ‘milk and cookies’ at a local watering hole. In the mean time, perhaps you could find some real evidence to support your irrational rantings. So far, you have failed to do so.

    I’m glad you straightened me out.

  82. 87 Sarge says:

    Hopefully, this idiot gets fired before he gets us into a war.

  83. 88 Big45Iron says:

    Could some of you do me a favor, please? I’ve read several of Bob’s posts, and I can’t find the word duopoly. I think I’m not getting all the posts.

  84. 89 SC says:

    Just catching up on my reading. Let it be known that the horse died at 3:04pm

  85. 90 bob42 says:

    Sarge, I apologize for making that offer, and hereby retract it. If the influence of the religious right on republican politics and platforms is beyond your comprehension, that is not my problem, it is yours.

    So, let’s stay on topic, shall we? Your buddy the liar said that me and many thousands of others wanted to “eliminate civilization.” I say he’s a liar, and you apparently can’t prove me wrong.

    And then you bitch because I responded to M42′s pot post, and earlier trolled me because I like singing better than arguing with an idiot.

    “Flick!”

  86. 91 wagonburner says:

    #87 sarge
    Which idiot might that be?

  87. 92 mharper42 says:

    #82 Bob

    What would you do?

    Guess I’d send ‘em to you, Bob, because for a fact no one would ever ask me to score marijuana for them.

  88. 93 mharper42 says:

    #90 Bob

    “Flick!”

    Sarge, you’ve been Flicked!

    Bob, several of us were poking fun today about the choir practise, but it wasn’t “trolling” you — just wondered what the flick happened after you signed off for milk & cookies, then were MIA this morning.

  89. 94 Sarge says:

    #87 sarge
    Which idiot might that be?

    Clapper.

    The guy in charge of oiur National Intelligence infrastructure.

    We are flickin doomed.

  90. 95 wagonburner says:

    #88 b45i
    I think he’s been spending too much time smoking his lawn lately.

  91. 96 Sarge says:

    Sarge, I apologize for making that offer, and hereby retract it. If the influence of the religious right on republican politics and platforms is beyond your comprehension, that is not my problem, it is yours.

    And here I thought your mouth made a promise your azz couldn’t keep.

    Thanks again for putting me on the straight and narrow there, Bobby.

    You’re an example for all of us.

  92. 97 Simple Simon says:

    Bob,

    Why would we care about what Newt says? His standings with the public and especially with Republicans is dropping pretty fast. See what the National Journal learned when political insiders were polled.


    National Journal

    Simple

  93. 98 Sarge says:

    O’Keefe’s new NPR sting video is even more damining than the first.

    The “donors” ask if they can make thier $5 million donation anonymously so as not to exposed thier affiliation with the Muslim Brotherhood.

    NPRs response?

    Okey Doke.

  94. 99 bob42 says:

    #93 M42 the “milk & cookies” and choir rehearsal that followed were both good. After practice I arrived at the nursing home for my usual visit just in time to learn that they were sending mom42 to the ER because she needed a blood transfusion. I was there until after 2AM, slept in, and am headed back to the hospital after I get some work done. I guess my quest to destroy civilization will just have to wait.

    Re: Your #92

    Guess I’d send ‘em to you, Bob, because for a fact no one would ever ask me to score marijuana for them.

    Under current Texas law, you would become a criminal for that referral. But it’s good to know that given the hypothetical circumstance of one of your loved ones asking for your help, you might do the right thing and break the law. But please, check craigslist or any of many other sources before approaching me. Our conversation here could be used as evidence against us.

  95. 100 Simple Simon says:

    98 Sarge,

    All politics aside. NPR and the NEA is not something we can afford when we may have to actually cut spending in Medicare.

    I like NPR in small doses, but Public Radio is not something our government should be doing. Indeed…any good freedom loving liberal or conservative should be alarmed by the prospect of the government running the transmitters and printing presses.

    Nice expose by Mr O’Keeth, but it is not needed. Let NPR hit Bill Gates up for a loan; he can afford it.

    Simple

  96. 101 Wonder Woman says:

    I only got to 54 posts, so excuse me if this is posted later on down the thread…….

    I have received emails from SEIU, MoveOn, OfA and someone else yesterday. They want money donated to them so they can send more thugs protesters up to Wisconsin. OK…….they just spent a couple hundred of thousands of $$$ to clean up the Capitol last week. Since it seems that these groups (including Unions) are in charge of these protests, WI should send them the bill this time.

    /carry on and scrolling back up

  97. 102 Sarge says:

    Nice expose by Mr O’Keeth, but it is not needed.

    I guess you haven’t notice the majority leader in the Senate telling us that any cuts beyond the $6 billion the Democrats have agreed to are dangerous and irresponsible.

    Because Cowboy FREAKING Poetry creates so dam many jobs.

  98. 103 Sarge says:

    But one other thing Simple.

    These clowns are examples of the kinds of folks Obama is putting into our bureacracy.

    The MUSLIM FREAKING BROTHERHOOD FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.

  99. 104 Texpat says:

    #100 Simple Simon

    Nice expose by Mr O’Keeth, but it is not needed.

    Really now.

    What is your genius solution for defunding a leftwing media apparatus that has had the unwavering support of the Democratic Party and has also concealed its political agenda for decades ? How would you propose to turn the average American voter to understand the useless and destructively partisan purpose of public broadcasting ?

    I’m really interested to hear your strategy since the Republican Party has been unable, on its own, to do so for many years though at times holding congressional majorities and the presidency.

    It must be a remarkable plan and why have you kept it secret all these years ? How do you propose to provide cover for members who would vote for defunding, but might be in marginal districts where they need to be provided legitimate cover for their vote ?

  100. 105 Sarge says:

    Cowboy freaking poetry.

    Golly.

    We sure dodged a bullet when that crazy dominionist Sharon Angle lost the election in Nevada.

    Harry is so much better a Senator.

  101. 106 mharper42 says:

    #97 Simple

    Great post! Both Gingrich and Trump with 2% of Republicans paying them any attention at all. Dunno why Bob thinks normal conservatives would want to loop back 15 years and dance with Newt again. He’s toast.

  102. 107 mharper42 says:

    Bob, sorry to hear your mother is worse. All kidding aside.

  103. 108 Simple Simon says:

    Sarge and Texpat,

    Loosen your hatbands! Just in case you failed to read the rest of my post….I don’t believe that NPR should be supported by taxpayer money.

    It might actually end up getting defunded of the 15% of it’s budget derived from government subsidies because our government is broke and we cannot afford luxuries.

    It would be nice to see it defunded because this is something the government should not do instead of a budgetary need. It will get defunded eventually, because I do believe we will end up having to cut Medicare, Medicaid, and the Defense Budgets. It is kind of hard to hold back military pay raises or deny medical treatments to seniors and still put up the money for “All Things Considered”. Many of the so-called sacred cows will be a lot less holy once the fiscal cuts begin in earnest and believe me…..just like that old song by the Carpenters..”We’ve Only Just Begun”.

    Simple

  104. 109 Texpat says:

    As I told my old LST colleagues this week, Newt Gingrich does not have a chance in hell of getting elected president of the United States.

  105. 110 Texpat says:

    #108 Simple

    Loosen your hatbands! Just in case you failed to read the rest of my post….I don’t believe that NPR should be supported by taxpayer money.

    I never said you did, in case you didn’t read my comment.

    And you never answered my questions.

  106. 111 Texpat says:

    My #110 cont’d

    Oh, and the Dems are already surreptitiously cutting veterans’ healthcare and college funding in case you didn’t know. It’s all to pay for Obamacare.

  107. 112 Simple Simon says:

    104 Tex,

    The strategy is quite simple. Quit voting the same bozos back into office every year just because they have an (R) next to their name.

    Quit voting the same idiots back into office because they support your one favorite social cause, but can’t resist throwing money at everything they see.

    We have sighted the enemy and he is US!! We are the idiots that keep sendiing the same wasteful idiots back into office. Personally…I think we should fire ourselves for the terrible job we have done so far. I know our kids will not look back on us too favorably in about 50 years.

    Simple

  108. 113 Texpat says:

    #112 Simple

    We quit voting the same bozos into office in 2010. Nevertheless, it doesn’t change certain political realities, specifically, those of entrenched media interests benefitting at the public trough with the collusion of their very powerful, private, mainstream media cohorts.

    The investigative efforts of O’Keefe & Co. are manifold in purpose, not just to embarrass NPR execs. It is necessary to expose the incestuous and glaringly false mission of these organizations. Politics are, among other things, also theater and the theatrical can be very powerful. To say that O’Keefe’s work is unnecessary is to be tone deaf and blind to political reality.

  109. 114 Shannon says:

    Sarge, I love you man but you are wasting your valuable time with this guy.
    Bob, I appreciate your anecdotes, and yes if I thought it would help a loved one I’d go pick up an lb tonite.
    Neither of you are accomplishing a thing.
    Stop it. Please.
    Enough is enough.

  110. 115 GJT says:

    My Sweetie went out for girl’s night out with our “L” friends (some of our best friends are L’s :D). I always raise an objection to these things ’cause it’s really couples night out for them so why can’t I go? If they want equal rights by golly, they need to split off and each go every other week. :D

    Tangled webs and all that.

  111. 116 Texpat says:

    GJT

    The rules are unequal for men. They always have been. The secret of feminine control has been to let men believe they run things. It’s been that way for, oh, about 7,000 years.

  112. 117 Darren says:

    In 30 minutes, 18 state Senators undid 50 years of civil rights in Wisconsin.

    Is a part of a quote from today’s o/c thread. Mark Levin just asked how collective bargaining is a civil right when federal employees do not have such a right?

    Good question.

  113. 118 Darren says:

    #5;

    The Fleebaggers abdicated their responsibilities to the democratic process and now they want to cry foul?

    Whenhave I encountered that before. Oh, yeah, the other night when Baby Girl refused to have Dad read her a bedtime story and screamed how she wanted Dad to read her a story as Dad was leaving the bedroom. (After kissing her on the head, of course).

  114. 119 Darren says:

    Oletimer #14;

    I thank God for all the great Doctor’s and medical innovations that have come about in just my lifetime.

    Amen to that.

  115. 120 Darren says:

    Ya might want to google dominionism

    Hamous.org is probably the first site that pops up on bob42′s search engine.

  116. 121 Darren says:

    http://www.allabouthistory.org/in-god-we-trust.htm

    Doooooo-minnnnnnnnn-ion-ismmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Ahhhhhhgggggg!!!

    8O

  117. 122 Darren says:

    mharper #92;

    Guess I’d send ‘em to you, Bob, because for a fact no one would ever ask me to score marijuana for them.

    Back in the hood people would ask me that just walking my dog. That doesn’t say much as to how I dressed. I never use pot but I sure looked like I did.

  118. 123 Darren says:

    Simple #97;

    His standings with the public and especially with Republicans is dropping pretty fast.

    I never liked Newt and I can hardly phathom me supporting his drive to the presidency. In fact, I’d probably vote for Hillary over Newt.

  119. 124 Darren says:

    if I thought it would help a loved one I’d go pick up an lb tonite

    That’s a lot of weed in one night. You sure they’ll need all that help?

  120. 125 Darren says:

    I eat cereal

    I eat bacon

    I eat apples

    by darren son

  121. 126 Darren says:

    #125 was written by my youngest son. He insisted on typing something.

  122. 127 Big45Iron says:

    When you have 85% of the media and 85% of academia (granted allegedly academia) voting for the Dems, that tells you that can’t expect fairness in coverage or education regarding the political views of a huge segment of our society.

  123. 128 Darren says:

    ‘YOU WILL DIE!!!!’: Read the Shocking E-Mail Sent to Wis. GOP Senators

    From: XXXX
    Sent: Wed 3/9/2011 9:18 PM
    To: Sen.Kapanke; Sen.Darling; Sen.Cowles; Sen.Ellis; Sen.Fitzgerald; Sen.Galloway; Sen.Grothman; Sen.Harsdorf; Sen.Hopper; Sen.Kedzie; Sen.Lasee; Sen.Lazich; Sen.Leibham; Sen.Moulton; Sen.Olsen
    Subject: Atten: Death threat!!!! Bomb!!!!

    Please put your things in order because you will be killed and your familes
    will also be killed due to your actions in the last 8 weeks. Please explain
    to them that this is because if we get rid of you and your families then it
    will save the rights of 300,000 people and also be able to close the deficit
    that you have created. I hope you have a good time in hell. Read below for
    more information on possible scenarios in which you will die.

    WE want to make this perfectly clear. Because of your actions today and in
    the past couple of weeks I and the group of people that are working with me
    have decided that we’ve had enough. We feel that you and the people that
    support the dictator have to die. We have tried many other ways of dealing
    with your corruption but you have taken things too far and we will not stand
    for it any longer. So, this is how it’s going to happen: I as well as many
    others know where you and your family live, it’s a matter of public records.
    We have all planned to assult you by arriving at your house and putting a
    nice little bullet in your head. However, we decided that we wouldn’t leave
    it there. We also have decided that this may not be enough to send the
    message to you since you are so “high” on Koch and have decided that you are
    now going to single handedly make this a dictatorship instead of a
    demorcratic process. So we have also built several bombs that we have placed
    in various locations around the areas in which we know that you frequent.
    This includes, your house, your car, the state capitol, and well I won’t
    tell you all of them because that’s just no fun. Since we know that you are
    not smart enough to figure out why this is happening to you we have decided
    to make it perfectly clear to you. If you and your goonies feel that it’s
    necessary to strip the rights of 300,000 people and ruin their lives, making
    them unable to feed, clothe, and provide the necessities to their families
    and themselves then We Will “get rid of” (in which I mean kill) you. Please
    understand that this does not include the heroic Rep. Senator that risked
    everything to go aganist what you and your goonies wanted him to do. We feel
    that it’s worth our lives to do this, because we would be saving the lives
    of 300,000 people. Please make your peace with God as soon as possible and
    say goodbye to your loved ones we will not wait any longer. YOU WILL DIE!!!!

    Just remember that violent rhetoric almost always comes from the right.

  124. 129 Tedtam says:

    #125 Darren

    Cute, and refreshing.

    I eat stuff, too.
    It’s fun.
    Too much fun.

  125. 130 Darren says:

    Tedtam #129;

    Thanks. He’s a lot of fun to have around.

  126. 131 Darren says:

    ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) – The mayor and police chief of a tiny New Mexico border town best known for a raid by Mexican revolutionary Pancho Villa nearly a century ago were among 11 people accused Thursday of participating in a ring alleged to have illegally sent firearms to Mexico.

    Good to see some progress in sorting out this AFT gun run across la frontera.

    LINK

  127. 132 GJT says:

    The secret of feminine control has been to let men believe they run things. It’s been that way for, oh, about 7,000 years.

    Dangit. Here I’ve been at it for 23 yrs and thought I was making progress.

  128. 133 mharper42 says:

    #116 Texpat

    It’s been that way for, oh, about 7,000 years.

    Only in civilized societies, you guys.

  129. 135 Bonecrusher says:

    Good morning my fellow Hamsteronianites!
    NORTHERN JAPAN JUST GOT SLAMMED BY A HUGE 8.9 EARTHQUAKE, FOLLOWED BY A TSUNAMI.
    There have been numerous 7.4+ aftershocks as well as many smaller aftershocks. The death toll could rise into the thousands. A tsunami is heading east and has already reached Hawaii and will reach our West Coast around 10 local time.

  130. 136 mharper42 says:

    (Friday morning)

    I am normally logged in and working remotely by this time in the mornings, but today I am wearing my HOA hat. I am going over to the subdivision’s swimming pool at 9 to admit a crew of leak detection workers. I am told they will don wet suits but I expect they’ll freeze their azzes off anyway after the cold night we just had.

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