Tuesday’s Progressive Pandemic Open Thread

Woodrow Wilson, President, 1920, The First Progressive 

If you don’t allow for investigative journalism, people die. There’s no clearer time to witness this fact than during 1918 when the Spanish Flu broke out.

The Spanish Flu was no ordinary illness. While most flu viruses attack the elderly and the very young, the Spanish Flu produced a reaction called a cytokine storm that essentially turned healthy immune systems against themselves. The stronger the immune system response, the worse the illness, so the flu was deadliest to the healthiest in the prime of their lives. In under two years, it would kill somewhere between 20 million to 50 million people worldwide.


The plague broke out during WWI after a morale law had been put in place in 1917. The law dictated that journalists shouldn’t report anything negative about the US government that might demoralize the populace — for instance, that a disease was spreading through the populace that they had no idea how to combat. If you defied the law, you could go to jail for up to 20 years. The epidemic was called the Spanish Flu not because it originated there (it most likely came from Kansas) but because Spanish newspapers, who had no such laws, reported on it with great frequency as early as May 1918.

In World War I, America suffered 116,000 military deaths and it is estimated 63,000 of those deaths were from the Spanish Flu.

A public health officer shot a man, a farrier, on the street in San Francisco because he refused to wear the face mask in public mandated by a martial law at the time.

Back in the US, as late as September 1918 the El Paso Herald was still running articles like “Vicious Rumors of Influenza Epidemic Will Be Combatted.” This ignorance led to calamitous results in late September in Philadelphia when thousands gathered for a parade. A health expert named Dr. Howard Anders begged newspapers to warn against gathering in close proximity, but they refused. By early October, 117 Philadelphians had contracted the disease, prompting the Philadelphia Inquirer to write, “Worry is useless! Talk of cheerful things instead of the disease.” By Oct. 10, 759 people in Philadelphia had died. The disease would ultimately kill 675,000 Americans.

Spanish Influenza Ward, Camp Riley, U.S. Army, Kansas 1918

That’s a shame, because Wilson’s two terms in office provide the clearest historical window into the soul of progressivism. Wilson’s racism, his ideological rigidity, and his antipathy toward the Constitution were all products of the progressive worldview. And since “progressivism” is suddenly in vogue – today’s leading Democrats proudly wear the label – it’s worth actually reviewing what progressivism was and what actually happened under the last full-throated progressive president.

and it gets worse,

Not surprisingly, such intellectual kindling was easy to ignite when World War I broke out. The philosopher John Dewey, New Republic founder Herbert Croly, and countless other progressive intellectuals welcomed what Mr. Dewey dubbed “the social possibilities of war.” The war provided an opportunity to force Americans to, as journalist Frederick Lewis Allen put it, “lay by our good-natured individualism and march in step.” Or as another progressive put it, “Laissez faire is dead. Long live social control.”

With the intellectuals on their side, Wilson recruited journalist George Creel to become a propaganda minister as head of the newly formed Committee on Public Information (CPI).

and worse,

Under the Espionage Act of 1917 and the Sedition Act of 1918, Wilson’s administration shut down newspapers and magazines at an astounding pace. Indeed, any criticism of the government, even in your own home, could earn you a prison sentence. One man was brought to trial for explaining in his own home why he didn’t want to buy Liberty Bonds.

The Wilson administration sanctioned what could be called an American fascisti, the American Protective League. The APL – a quarter million strong at its height, with offices in 600 cities – carried government-issued badges while beating up dissidents and protesters and conducting warrantless searches and interrogations. Even after the war, Wilson refused to release the last of America’s political prisoners, leaving it to subsequent Republican administrations to free the anti-war Socialist Eugene V. Debs and others.

Woodrow Wilson, founder of American Progressivism, contemptuous of unalienable rights and guilty of arrogant negligence and incompetence in the deaths of thousands of Americans.

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102 thoughts on “Tuesday’s Progressive Pandemic Open Thread

  1. Well, I’m at work, warming up the big DMA 4030, our day starts @ 7 AM, but I’m always here by a little after 6. FWIW: I got sucked into the Lithium Lon Battery vibration testing, we’ve had about 6 of them in here since last Summer and somehow, I’ve managed to miss all of them…..Luck ran out though.
    Mornin’ Gang!

  2. 2 Hamous

    Yes, they could. If nothing else, he certainly opened the door for the ideology. And if it were not for TR’s raging ego, Wilson would never have been elected in 1912. Robert Taft would have slammed Wilson in the general election and the U.S. probably would never have entered WWI, the dumbest, stupidest of all wars.

    Who knows ? We might not have had a Great Depression.

  3. Governor Abbott’s Twitter response to NFL threat over transgender restrooms:

    “NFL decision makers also benched Tom Brady last season. It ended with NFL handing the Super Bowl trophy to Brady.”

  4. Hubby left me a very cute card this morning. I think he takes more time than the average male in picking out cards for me, because none of them seem bland. Doing things for me is how he shows his love for me (and I’m glad I finally figured THAT out!), so when I see a particularly appropriate sign of his affection, I feel appropriately loved.

    BTW – I highly recommend the book, “The Five Love Languages”. It really helped me understand Hubby a lot better. And me.

    I spent a few minutes on the back porch with my coffee, talking to God and listening to the oncoming storm. Southwest Airlines planes are screaming in as fast as they can land, squeaking in their arrivals before all heck breaks loose here. I hear some not-so-distant thunder, and the sky is darkening enough that I have lights on in the Dome. As I sat there, I talked with God and Mary a bit, and I said a prayer for a particularly lovely elderly couple in my church. They’re facing cancer (again), and even though I’ve never seen the husband do anything but be gracious and smile when he sees me, I know that when I see the wife not smiling something is seriously wrong. They’ve been missed at mass for over a month, and I was very happy to see them again last Sunday. The Mrs. was trying to smile, but she admitted that they both have been very ill,in the hospital together in the same room, his cancer is back, and she wouldn’t tell me what was wrong with her (she’s had cancer, too). I hugged them both and told them I’d keep them in my prayers.

    So, anyway, I was out back with my coffee and my God, and I prayed for them. Just as I finished, there was a flash of lightning, no thunder. I told God that I’d take that as a “yes,” and came inside. Maybe I’m optimistic.

    Hubby is far from perfect, but he’s my far from perfect, and he tries very hard to love me in the best way possible. Seeing what the lovely couple is going through is quite a reminder that I should focus on what is best in our relationship and forgive enough to love him even when I get so frustrated I want to execute physical damage upon his person. I’m so perfect, I’m sure I never drive him crazy, right? I won’t have him forever. Go with the flow and make sure we both have our life jackets on.

    Happy Valentine’s Day to everyone!

  5. Some showers out here overnight and still sporadic this morning. Got my yard mowed just in time. I’ve still got a few thin spots that need new seeding, but it’s too early to put seed out yet despite the nice warm weather. That would just make the birds happy but would not help the grass fill in. Looks like the Dems finally were able to claim a scalp with the resignation of Gen. Flynn at NSA. He lied or at least misrepresented facts to the VP, and as a result, he had to go. I applaud President Trump again for insisting that his cabinet be clean and not corrupt. He seems completely loyal to his underlings, but if you embarrass him you’re gone. That’s a good way to run the country rather than expending political capital on incompetents and malcontents. You’re either on the train or off.

  6. Got right on this morning. No database connection problems at all. Hamous.org fired right up. Why? Cause all is well in the cyber universe cause Texpat wrote the story and Super Dave got firsties. The natural order of things was preserved and not tampered with.

    Don’t ever doubt me.

  7. I can see how this legislation may become necessary.

    HEADLINE: Outlawing microchipping humans not so far fetched, Nevada senator says
    CARSON CITY — State Sen. Becky Harris said a bill to prohibit forced microchipping of people is not as far-fetched as it might seem because it happens in some places around the world.

    Senate Bill 109 would make it a Class C felony to require someone to be implanted with a radio frequency identifier, such as microchips placed in pets.

    I will not take the chip or a tattoo, especially if some gov’t terd or nazi employer attempts to force me to do so.

  8. Morning, Hamsterville ™ — the pounding rain that I woke up to has moved east, leaving me hopeful for parking when I go in for an 11:45 doctor’s appointment. My primary doc is in an office and lab building next to NW Mem-Hermann Hospital, and they have a rather large surface parking lot behind, that has always been free. Whereas the hospital itself has very little surface parking, and it’s not free, like its 2 multi-floor parking garages. For some insane reason, a path was opened and paved between the back of the main hospital and that secluded free lot, which means patients at the small office building are now lucky to find a spot to park even at the far back corner of their lot. Not a fun walk in a thunderstorm.

    I haven’t been there since last fall, so maybe I’m anticipating trouble I won’t see today. Maybe they’ve installed a parking permit machine and it won’t be free now.

  9. Regarding vaccinations: There are some vaccinations that are a good thing, like polio, small pox, TB, Dyptheria, Whooping Cough, and those deadly types. Trying to vaccinate for every possible illness is not beneficial at all and can cause more problems than it solves. As a kid I had the measles (2X), the mumps, chicken pox to name just a few. I suffer from no issues as a result now, and I have a built in immunity should I encounter them in the future. The whole anti-vax movement started (IMHO) when the sheer number of required vaccinations grew to over 10. What is the number now 40+?

  10. When my friend, the government, supports a new miracle cure all vaccination that I just invented, how better to assure it’s financial success than to have it mandated. Just for the record, I do not oppose vaccinations; I strongly support most of them. I do oppose having government mandate them.

  11. The problem with anti-vaccination people is they are free riders among the general population that is vaccinated until, of course, some free rider gets a communicable disease and sparks an epidemic. Then all the free rider families start bawling and whining for the government to come help them. They don’t want to take a $15 shot, but have no problem having taxpayers foot the bill for emergency treatment to save their lives.

    It’s like the Libertarian who refuses to support the local fire department and then wails when his house burns down and nobody comes to put out the fire.

  12. The problem with anti-vaccination people is they are free riders among the general population that is vaccinated until, of course, some free rider gets a communicable disease and sparks an epidemic

    If the vaccine worked, why would those who were vaccinated get sick, how would it become an epidemic? Is it a disease that is not vaccinated for, if so, how would that be prevented vaccination or not?

  13. As the number of the ignorant parents grows, we lose herd immunity, making epidemics more likely among the non-vaccinated – some of whom have legitimate reasons for not participating.

  14. #17 bone
    Vaccines are not 100% effective in all people.

    The more widespread an outbreak gets, the more mutations are likely, rendering vaccines less effective.

  15. I got so worked up with the weather folks forecasting more doom, gloom and hunker down in the closet you ma- roons, dont drive in the rain or you’re insane, I had to figure out a way to release all that pent-up energy.

    So I searched long and hard and found the perfect Valentine’s Day vid.

    And I’ll be Hoover Damm-ed, it worked.

  16. Herd immunity? The sheeple haven’t lost their herd mentality, that’s for sure! Drink up that fluoridated water, suckers! The Bilderbergers thank you!

  17. Stopped at my Kroger’s on the way home from doc’s appt, and I can say that I have never in my life seen SO MANY good-looking young men mobbing the store for roses, candy, chocolate strawberries, cards, balloons, etc. It was amazing.

  18. A remote second might have been the Saturday before SB LI, way more men than usual in the store, but all ages, sizes, and looks. And it was cartons of beer and snack foods at the focus of the mania.

  19. The press briefing at the White House just concluded. All the reporters were foaming at the mouth to try and throw dirt on Gen Flynn. What they did not seem to care about was the fact that the conversation was leaked by some alphabet agency NSA, CIA, or whatever. From what I gathered (before I left the room thus leaving the TV intact) was the major offence was that Flynn was asked by his Rooskie counterpart about the sanctions and that his response was that everything is going to be under review under the new admin. The discussion Flynn had with VP Pence about the call did not yeild this info, therefore the sleeze buckets in the press are saying that Flynn lied.

    Still, most seem not to care that a leak of classified info by a government agency happened and that it was totally politically motivated. There’s a whole lot in that swamp that needs to come out.

  20. Good afternoon Hamsters. The storms blew through here a little after 8 am. We were under various tornado warnings for a little over an hour until the last of the storms moved east of us after 9. Damage is reported in parts of Rosenberg and in Richmond and in the Bridlewood subdivision in south Richmond. Scary enough in those wind gusts. Got 1″ in the gauge. All quiet now but still breezy and down to 57.

    Rush is deep in analysis of the liberal machinations to destroy Donald Trump through destroying his appointees first. They are terrified of Trump’s purported mention of removing sanctions that Obama enacted just before he moved out of the White House, as of course in their fevered and insane minds it was Russian hacking of the election that lost it for their beloved Hildebeast. And the Obama sanctions were supposed to punish them for that interference. These idiots can’t abide the thought that they lost all on their own.

  21. Flynn’s a Dem to start with, and lying comes naturally to those people. He caused the VP, and thus the President, great embarrassment and had to be fired for lying to them. Whatever it was that he did is immaterial – lying upstream is not good. They all know that the press has painted targets on their backs, and if they lie, they will get caught, so lying is not the way to go. Had he not lied to Pence, Trump would most like have gone to bat for him all the way. That seems to be the kind of guy Trump is.

  22. 15 BC

    I specifically avoided saying vaccinated persons would be infected with a communicable disease.

    In a school district with 9,000 students in which 10% are not vaccinated you have 900 students vulnerable along with, say, 3 other family members bringing the total to 3,600 potential patients. If one or two students get sick and pass it on to older and/or younger siblings, the disease spreads to other schools in the district quickly. In a community of 40,000 or 50,000 citizens, that is a lot of sick folks. It would completely overwhelm local medical care facilities.

  23. Our Valentine evening will proceed in peace now that the storms are long gone. We are again attending the Valentine dinner party at the Sugar Land branch of the Houston Museum of Natural Science campus. This is a blast and our third visit to it in four years.

    It’s a catered dinner by a very good restaurant, with wine and a lecture by the curator of a museum department. Fascinating evening amidst various exhibits and a look-see behind the scenes of a particular department with the lecture. Last year our table was next to a velociraptor skeleton exhibit. He appeared to be looking over our shoulders during the meal. 🙂

  24. Even I have ties to Russia. My sister decided to give me an ancestry DNA test for Christmas. Yeah I know, THEY know all about me now. Besides blowing up a family legend, I discovered I have Finland/NW Russia ancestry.

  25. Michael Flynn was outstanding at the head of Special Ops Command. He was then promoted to direct the Defense Intelligence Agency at the Pentagon, the runt member of the American intelligence bureaucracies. Flynn wanted to remake DIA into a first rank agency and compete with CIA, NSA, etc.

    They didn’t like that and the humps that were at DIA didn’t want to rock the boat. His own employees sabotaged him. Flynn made a lot of enemies in the DC spook arena and they figured out a way to set him up so Obama would fire him. WaPo editors and reporters are joined at the hip with sleazy intel people in Washington and they have come out in force to do the bidding of their leak providers.

    Now these creeps have managed to get him fired twice.

    PS. If Flynn actually lied to Pence, he deserved to go, but I have to wonder.

  26. More on Flynn. Seems someone leaked his discussion with the Russians. Well, so what. We as Americans have a right to privacy, but we also have a right to know what our government is doing. That’ why I think Wikileaks and Snowden are not criminals. Government have no such right to privacy (OK, technically he wasn’t in office yet, but he was certainly operating on behalf of the incoming government administration). The President is entitled to some privacy while developing plans and strategy, but not unlimited privacy. See, in our form of government, if you can’t get the people behind you, you can’t survive long term – you may be able to do some damage for a while like Obama, but it can be snuffed out pretty quickly; whereas popular programs and plans tend to last. The President has to oversee development of plans, and then sell those plans if he expect them to succeed. The eReps and Dems will always be sniping at hime, and the bureaucracy will try to slow him down, but so long as the people support him, he will be fine. In order to garner that support, he must be as open as possible in his effort to sell programs. Firing selected Obamaites is like playing whack-a-mole. As the old saying goes, when you’re up to your azz in alligators, you still must remember that the goal is to drain the swamp.

  27. Just got my second FB “You may have been hacked – are these really your posts or do you want to delete these posts?”

    Man am I on their radar or what?

    Of course, I kept ’em all. I’m not planning on interviewing for any jobs.

  28. My only tie to Russia was a short-lived business partnership with a Russian Israeli… oh, and then there was that mystical episode with a Ukrainian hussy woman named Ekaterina.

  29. 37 Hamous

    The worst horror story I heard about ancestry DNA was a guy who had his done with Ancestry.com. They, of course, keep all the DNA records on file and law enforcement has wised up to that fact.

    It seems this guy in his thirties was a filmmaker in New Orleans. There had been a series of rapes thought to be by the same perp in the area, but every time they ran the DNA evidence, they couldn’t find a match anywhere.

    So, some wise cop convinces the DA to subpoena all the current male DNA records for New Orleans residents from Ancestry.com. Sure enough, they get a match on this guy and one night, they raided his home and dragged him off to jail, charging him with multiple rapes, etc.

    After enormous legal bills and numerous unimpeachable alibis, the DA relented and admitted they didn’t have the 1 in a billion match and it was possible a close family member was the criminal. It turned out the young filmmaker had been abandoned by his father when he was a toddler and had never had any contact with him. But the father came in as the perfect match on the DNA evidence and they tracked him down and busted him.

    I’m quite sure NOLA cops and DAs have never reimbursed the poor son for all the money he lost in the deal.

  30. 18 Shannon

    I wonder how many voters read the fine print in the constitutional amendment change on the ballot when it was passed.

    Oct. 23, 2015:

    The provisions from the proposition would not last forever. The amendment would limit the time for money being taken from the state’s sales and use tax revenue to 10 years. It would also limit the deposit of state sales and use tax revenue to 15 years unless extended by the Legislature. State lawmakers would be able to reduce the amount of the taxes used with a vote from two-thirds of both chambers.

  31. I wasn’t aware there had been any strong winds until I was driving south on TC Jester. There were quite a few big limbs down on the esplanades, looked like they were ripped off of some very tall pine trees. Nothing like that at home, but did have 1.5″ in rain gauge.

    Oh and yesterday was first hint of color on my redbud tree. And our tree, compared to others I see around here, is not usually an early budder.

  32. I just read this in the Chiro’s office:

    Chuck Norris was born in a log cabin which he built with his bare hands.

  33. Another pertinent article:

    HEADLINE: The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn
    In normal times, the idea that U.S. officials entrusted with our most sensitive secrets would selectively disclose them to undermine the White House would alarm those worried about creeping authoritarianism. Imagine if intercepts of a call between Obama’s incoming national security adviser and Iran’s foreign minister leaked to the press before the nuclear negotiations began? The howls of indignation would be deafening.

    In the end, it was Trump’s decision to cut Flynn loose. In doing this he caved in to his political and bureaucratic opposition. Nunes told me Monday night that this will not end well. “First it’s Flynn, next it will be Kellyanne Conway, then it will be Steve Bannon, then it will be Reince Priebus,” he said. Put another way, Flynn is only the appetizer. Trump is the entree.

    These are definitely not normal times. This Flynn-Flam is indicative of just how badly the swamp needs draining.

  34. I think they should just get a branding iron and brand them with the word Weiße.

    That way they can’t take it off and they’ll always be reminded of what privilege they have.

    Sieg Heil to Elizabethtown Indoctrination Camp.

  35. I think Congress should send a bill to the White House reforming federal asset procedures even more and challenge Trump to veto it.

    Not New Jersey, though, thanks to Governor Chris Christie. After both houses of the NJ legislature passed a modest forfeiture reform that would require Jersey cops to submit an annual report to the NJ Attorney General listing which goods had been seized, Christie vetoed it, stating the suppressing public disclosure of seizures was necessary to “protect law enforcement operations and personnel.”

    Christie is singing from the Trump hymnal here: last week, the president stated that he wanted to strip transparency requirements and due process limits on forfeiture programs, allowing the police to seize virtually anything from anyone without having to show evidence (or give it back).

  36. It appears that the Ds are following Rules for Radicals:
    They are nitpicking to the minutiae of the law when the Rs are in power, yet when they are in power they only use the rules when they are advantageous to them.
    The stupid eunuch-class Rs let them get away with it.

  37. I finally finished installing Pushbullet into my browser. Up until yesterday, I really hadn’t been using it. Now that I’ve got it synced to my phone, it allows me to SMS from my computer.

    Love. It.

    The messages pop up, and I can keyboard the response instead of taking my hands from my desk, opening my phone, locating the message, and using my stylus to henpeck a response. Saves me a lot of time and frustration.

    Why did I wait so long?

  38. 53 cont’d.

    This is ripe for a Fifth Amendment “takings” challenge at SCOTUS.

    I’ve really been surprised one of the public legal foundations haven’t taken it up. You could get the Left and the Right to cooperate on this issue.

  39. Flynn lied to his boss.

    If someone who’s working for me lies to me, he gets fired, I don’t care what kind of times these are.

    That goes double when everybody involved is handling intelligence information.

    I didn’t let Hillary slide, I ain’t gonna let Flynn slide.

    And I’m sure as Hell not going to let politics govern whether I fired someone in those conditions.


  40. #44 Texpat

    Yeah, I’ve heard the stories. I’d be lying if I didn’t think about it. But Pops has been gone for a while, I have no male siblings, and I have no male progeny (that I’m aware of). I figure I’m safe.

    It was pretty interesting. I knew with a name like Tipton the UK would be in there. Turned out to be about 50%. I knew from family records there were some Irish, 25%. About 10% Western European, no surprise. There was documented family history of some German. The remaining 15% was a surprise. Russian, Scandinavian, Italian, Iberian, Eastern European, and Middle Eastern.

  41. A certain number of generations spent in the southern U.S. has been shown to negate most Euro-weenie-ness.

  42. #59 YahButt, how much Neanderthal? A guy at work just got his DNA and he says 99% of European/British folks have some of this DNA, his is point something or another, or slightly lees than average. He’s mostly German, Scotch Irish, and a little Viking and a small slice of fourteen dozen other ones.

  43. I don’t feel any smarter now that I know what SMS is.

    I feel stupider knowing what it is now but still not understanding what a lifesaver it is.

  44. Joke from one of the crafty gals:

    Her: “See, I told you I could fit all of my crafting supplies in one box!”
    Him: “Stop calling our house a box!”

  45. 63 Hamous

    Listen, you can’t blame your ancestors. One of them is stuck down in Seville after a long journey, having some lamb and wine at an inn, listening to the flamenco guitars when in walked the most beautiful Moroccan woman he had ever seen in his life. She came straight from Marrakesh and walked up to ask your great, great, great uncle to dance the seguidilla. He could never find the will to say no.

  46. #71

    I don’t feel any smarter now that I know what SMS is.

    I feel stupider knowing what it is now but still not understanding what a lifesaver it is.

    Texting messages instead of calling Hubby does several things for me:
    1) It is quicker. I type, I hit enter, I get back to work.

    2) It prevents “forgetful” repeating of the same stuff 20 minutes later.

    3) I can send him info like phone numbers, addresses, schedules, due amounts, etc., and he can scroll back later to find the info rather than call me again. And again. And again.

    4) I don’t get dragged into conversations, which happens often, because Hubby likes to think out loud. While I’m on the phone. About things that don’t affect me. It can take a while.

    5) There is a smaller chance that he’ll ask me to do stuff for him, when my plate is already overflowing: e.g., “While we’re on the phone, would you mind looking up the phone number for the trophy place where I’m supposed to pick up the car club stuff?”

    Yep, I love text messaging.

  47. I got at least 1/8th enjun, where’s my reservations?

    Aren’t you supposed to be up there freezing your fannie off, protesting a pipeline?

  48. Oh I didn’t know you were talking about text messaging, heck yeah, I can’t stand the phone and all the how ya do’s and how’s yo mama. Quick, straight to the point, they can go back and read what I meant. Bam. Done.

  49. …Where the wind comes sweeping ‘cross the plain
    And the wavin’ wheat can sure smell sweet
    When the wind comes right behind the rain

  50. #59 Hammy
    How much Neanderthal? That’s the hippest DNA to have trace amounts of these days. Not kidding.

  51. From Twitter:

    Bill Kristol ‏@BillKristol 11h11 hours ago

    Obviously strongly prefer normal democratic and constitutional politics. But if it comes to it, prefer the deep state to the Trump state.*

    705 replies 130 retweets 326 likes

    *emphasis added

    If I have ever defended this smug, arrogant jackass, I take it all back.

    Bill Kristol is an ass unmatched by anyone in his hypocrisy.

  52. GJT says:
    FEBRUARY 14, 2017 AT 6:12 PM
    I got at least 1/8th enjun, where’s my reservations?

    You also qualify to run as Senator from Massachusetts.

  53. Shannon

    So how many squares on my impeach Trump pool do you want. The pool is when we think Trump will have impeachment charges filed against him. Oh you say that Repubs hold the Senate? Repubs want him gone almost as bad as the demorats.

    We’re screwed.

  54. Obama should be arrested.

    “Since then, top members of the Obama administration’s national security team have launched a communications infrastructure after they left the White House, and have told reporters they are using that infrastructure to undermine Trump’s foreign policy.

    “It’s actually Ben Rhodes, NIAC, and the Iranian mullahs who are celebrating today,” said one veteran foreign policy insider who is close to Flynn and the White House. “They know that the number one target is Iran … [and] they all knew their little sacred agreement with Iran was going to go off the books. So they got rid of Flynn before any of the [secret] agreements even surfaced.”


  55. PBS is airing a special on the UT Tower shooting. It’s a really bizarre production. Actual film with alternating black & white and color cartoon characters superimposed. I don’t get it.

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